Ezekiel Elliot

[dbair1967]

Several, our (back end of the) roster is awful.

Wait, you don't see the value of guys like Kyle Wilbur, Jeff Heath, Charles Brown, Vince Mayle & Casey Walker?

I don't understand. Everyone else can see whats being built here but you.

 

[dbair1967]

I don't mind Bosa. I think he fills an obvious need and if he can kick the weed habit, he'll be a solid starter for the next several years. If you're asking me if I'd rather have Bosa at 4 OR Lawson a little lower and a pick, give me the trade down all day.

I like Lawson a lot too.

 

[peplaw06]

Clayton reporting Cowboys and Titans may have a deal in place now to trade 4 for 15, plus a 2nd and 3rd if Tunsil is still available at 4.

When Riddick was on this morning with Mike & Mike, they all agreed the Chargers were going to pass on Tunsil and take Ramsey instead.

15 is a little further than I'd like to see us go, but the 2nd and 3rd rd does appear to be pretty deep

That doesn't seem like enough to me to move down that far. Give me 33 and 45, and I would do that.

 

[cmd34]

That doesn't seem like enough to me to move down that far. Give me 33 and 45, and I would do that.

If we had Sonny Weaver, Jr as our GM we could get them to throw in Bishop Sankey ( who they really don't need since they acquired Murray).

 

[MrB]

That's not McClain is it? Doesn't even look like him.

Yup, he's huge! He has to be pushing 300 lbs

 

[dbair1967]

That doesn't seem like enough to me to move down that far. Give me 33 and 45, and I would do that.

Dallas Pick 4= 1800 pts
Tenn Pick 15= 1050 pts

TN has three 2nd rd picks, 33= 580, 43= 470, 45= 450
TN has two 3rd rd picks, 64= 270, 76= 210

750 pts makes the trade even, 43 + 64= 740 pts. It'd be great if we could swindle 33 and 76 out of them. That'd be 790 pts but 40 pts equates to a late 4th or maybe early 5th rd pick, and we don't have either of those to trade back.

Ultimately it would probably depend on how bad TN wanted Tunsil, if we had other bidders for 4th pick (very well could if Tunsil or Ramsey are available) and how bad Dallas wants to bail on #4.

 

[MrB]

It appears that Bradford got his panties in a bunch the day after PHI moved up to number 2. The report states that he may ask to be traded

His problem is that the Eagles hold all the aces in that deal

Good ole Sam has NEVER lived up to expectations, he's injured every single year, throws damn near as many INT as he does TD's so Sam really has no leverage in his favor other than his insanely overpriced contract that I'm sure the Eagles would love to part with

Here is a worst case scenario

The Eagles move up to block the Cowboys from taking a top QB, then they trade us Sam Bradford to us for a bag o dicks or whatever else he may be worth. The Eagles kill three birds with one stone. They get their QB of the future, block us from getting ours, and they saddle us with shitty Sam Bradford effectively crippling our future

It's a win win win for PHI. lol

Philly can't trade Bradford right now. They would have $20 in dead money on their books if they did. If they wait until next year he will only count $9 mil against their cap.

 

[dbair1967]

If we had Sonny Weaver, Jr as our GM we could get them to throw in Bishop Sankey ( who they really don't need since they acquired Murray).

We don't need him either.

A whole slew of RB's I'd rather see us add via draft than trading for him.

 

[cmd34]

Yup, he's huge! He has to be pushing 300 lbs

He's preparing to play DE.

 

[cmd34]

We don't need him either.

A whole slew of RB's I'd rather see us add via draft than trading for him.

I'd take Sankey.

 

[dbair1967]

I'd take Sankey.

we have jags already...we need real RB's

 

[cmd34]

we have jags already...we need real RB's

ANYONE can run behind this line.

But seriously, he's 23 and he would only count $769,408 against the cap this year and $944,112 next year. Can be cut at any time with no salary ramifications. I'm not saying give up much to get him, just have Tennessee throw him in if the trade compensation is slightly off in their favor.

If he beats out Dunbar, we could save $887,500 in cap room.

 

[MrB]

I like Lawson a lot too.

Lawson is probably a better pass rusher but not as good against the run than Bosa.

 

[yimyammer]

By the way ESPN's Louis Riddick was on Mike & Mike this morning, he's 100% convinced Dallas is drafting Elliott. Said they have been doing a ton of work on him.

He also believes 5 QB's are going round one, the top 3 plus Cook and Hackenberg (has him going to Denver)

Considering I stated that 2 or more of these QBs would be available in the second round, this result would be consistent with every other NFL prediction I've decided to go out on a limb with (I did actually get one right when I bet that one team would lose their mind and draft Tebow in the 1st round but that didn't require knowledge about talent evaluation, just human psychology)

 

[yimyammer]

It appears that Bradford got his panties in a bunch the day after PHI moved up to number 2. The report states that he may ask to be traded

His problem is that the Eagles hold all the aces in that deal

Good ole Sam has NEVER lived up to expectations, he's injured every single year, throws damn near as many INT as he does TD's so Sam really has no leverage in his favor other than his insanely overpriced contract that I'm sure the Eagles would love to part with

Here is a worst case scenario

The Eagles move up to block the Cowboys from taking a top QB, then they trade us Sam Bradford to us for a bag o dicks or whatever else he may be worth. The Eagles kill three birds with one stone. They get their QB of the future, block us from getting ours, and they saddle us with shitty Sam Bradford effectively crippling our future

It's a win win win for PHI. lol

If the "bag o dicks" = jerri, stephen & Garrett, this is a must trade!

 

[dbair1967]

ANYONE can run behind this line.

But seriously, he's 23 and he would only count $769,408 against the cap this year and $944,112 next year. Can be cut at any time with no salary ramifications. I'm not saying give up much to get him, just have Tennessee throw him in if the trade compensation is slightly off in their favor.

If he beats out Dunbar, we could save $887,500 in cap room.

Dunbar aint gonna be here. He has a really bad injury. Will be surprised if he plays anywhere in 2016.

 

[MrB]

Dunbar aint gonna be here. He has a really bad injury. Will be surprised if he plays anywhere in 2016.

I would really love to see them draft a RB with one the 6th picks to replace Dunbar. My hope was for Perkins from UCLA but I think he might go in the 4th.

 

[tonyraye]

Doesn't it seem like the whole spirit of the Philly draft move up was exactly that: they knew Wentz would go to Dallas and they didn't want that. After all, they already have their QB and the backup locked up in pretty big money. Makes not financial sense but it does make strategic sense in QB down the road but more importantly keeping Dallas from getting a strong weapon. They didn't need Murray last year and he certainly didn't fit in their offense. They signed that Oakland CB Asomougha right out from under Rob Ryan when it was not a big need for them. Eagles have a history of toying with naive and impulsive Jerry (didn't the Eagles trigger LaFleur or another TE?).

These are the games I love that are played during the draft. I NEVER thought the Cowboys would look at QB at #4 simply because by the time Romo's contract gets to a point where we can release him, the QB drafted this year will have a 1 year option left on his contract. Not much to judge him on in my opinion. Think the Cowboys talked QB to goad someone like Philly or Washington into selling the farm for that QB? I sure do. Iwas glad Washington sold the farm for RG3, crippled them for the next 5-7 years as far as being competitive.

 

[cmd34]

Think the Cowboys talked QB to goad someone like Philly or Washington into selling the farm for that QB? I sure do

Oh boy.

crippled them for the next 5-7 years as far as being competitive.

They've won the division, twice.

 

[Doomsday]

but more importantly keeping Dallas from getting a strong weapon.

Eagles might be making sure Zeke isn't there when Dallas' #4 pick comes up.