Scot

Pro Bowler

77 players on 11 teams have tested false positive from one single testing site

( there were 80 players per team, it might be less at the time of testing but 80 was the last cut down I remember hearing so I’ll use that number, x 11= 880 total players tested)


In that small sample size that comes to 8.75% of the tests coming back false positive.

I’m sure the number of false positives are drastically higher. But this is what we know of in this controlled group

If you use the conservative number of 8.75% of false positives that the nfl has reported from only 11 of the 32 teams and extrapolate that percentage to the overall 6 million supposed positive cases here in the US that would mean that of the 6 million cases that have tested positive over 525,000 could be false positives.

One testing site in Connecticut had 90 of 144 people test false positive


So there is no way to know what the actual numbers are. It’s safe to say that whatever the real numbers are, that they are nowhere near what is being reported.
 

dbair1967

Administrator
Biggest sham in history of the world.

I am not one of those that believe there is NO Corona Virus at all, but they have politicized this beyond belief to support a much larger, more ominous agenda. None of the numbers they report are factual IMO.
 

Scot

Pro Bowler
I just saw an article yesterday (I wish I would have saved it but I didn’t)

The article states that the COVID tests themselveshave a 30% false positive and a 20% false negative result rate

So with that in mind it means that on average there is still a +10% false positive result automatically built in to ALL of the tests and test results

So that is even higher than my NFL example above

That’s an average of 660,000 false positives that are built into the tests results themselves. That is not counting human error and or manipulation for profit which we also know is going on by medical facilities

Like I said before, I personally know of 2 more than one person who stood in line to get tested here in CA, who got tired of waiting in line and left without ever getting tested, who then received phone calls the following week stating they had tested positive for COVID without ever being tested.

There is no way to know what the real numbers are
 

Creeper

Spectator
They never should have gotten into the process of reporting daily numbers. It's stupid and it doesn't even mean what it looks like. Then, countries, and even states, are not counting the same way. If a person tests positive twice is that one or two positives? It depends! If a person dies with Coronavirus does that count as a CV death? That also depends.

But let's take the numbers as they are and assume they are correct. Does anyone know why, I mean really know why, NY and NJ had 49,000 deaths with under 700,000 cases but California has well over 700k cases and about 13k deaths, less than 1/3 of NY and NJ? Does anyone want to know? Seems to me this is kind of important. Did the virus mutate to a less deadly form? If so shouldn't we change our approach to controlling it? Did NY and NJ screw something up and if so what? Don't we want to know this too so we do not repeat the same mistakes in case we have a second wave? What is preventing us from asking questions? We all know the answer. Just ask yourself, who would ask these questions?

The US response to coronavirus has been criticized because when you compare us to the rest of the world it looks worse (even though there are a few other countries at are worse than us) but the reason is because we are the only country to politicize the virus to the degree we did. Take away the politics so everyone works together and we could have done better against CV too. But it is an election year so our priorities changed.
 

Maveric

Draft Pick
The US response to coronavirus has been criticized because when you compare us to the rest of the world it looks worse (even though there are a few other countries at are worse than us) but the reason is because we are the only country to politicize the virus to the degree we did. Take away the politics so everyone works together and we could have done better against CV too. But it is an election year so our priorities changed.
You've got a huge part of it nailed. It has become political, just like pretty much everything else this year has. The other large factor that ties into that though is that not only is everything political in people's minds, but it's also black and white. Nobody has any room to even consider being wrong, either personally or politically. So even if we had the complete, accurate picture, you'd still have a larage part of the population that would fight against it. The only exception to this being the tin foil hat wearing nutjobs that believe everything they read on Facebook...
 

Creeper

Spectator
I am guessing after 8 months people are not bothering to look at the daily CV-19 numbers being reported but something is not right. The number of new cases globally has recently been the highest at any point in the pandemic, but some countries are reporting very low new deaths. Look at France and Spain. Both reported almost 10,000 new cases yesterday but France reported 19 deaths and Spain 71. Compare this to the outbreaks in those countries back in March. Both were reporting 1000 deaths per day with about the same or lower new cases. The difference is too significant to ignore. But it is being ignored, at least by the major media.

33,000 people died of CV-19 in NY, Mostly during April and May. That's more than Texas and California combined despite the fact those two states have 3 times the number of cases.

Does anyone want to know why? Has the virus mutated to be less deadly? Are treatments better? Did we make stupid m i stakes back in April that led to the deaths of thousands of people? Seems to me it is information we want to know because if the virus is no longer as deadly ass it was in April then we can change our strategy and get back to work. If we made dumb mistakes back in April then we can make sure we do not repeat them. Either way, why is no one asking these questions?
 

dbair1967

Administrator
It's all b/s twisting of numbers to support an agenda.

Anyone who dies and happens to be positive for Covid at the time of death is then counted as a "Covid death"

That sound bad with the numbers you see until you also factor in that 94-95% of those who died "of Covid" also had significant, even major underlying health conditions.
 

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