Doomsday

High Plains Drifter
Dooms, Biden talked to George Soros and the Chinese government leadership, they said it wasn't a bio-weapon that was manufactured in a lab.

If that isn't good enough for you then I don't know what is.
I know, right? We should just fucking trust them like our fucking lapdog press and media do.
 

Scot

Pro Bowler
1 week after CA opening indoor dining to 25% and this city is back to fucking normal. It took me over an hour to get home from Hollywood today (which would normally take about 30 minutes) and all along the way driving down Sunset Blvd I could see in all the Resturant’s windows and see that almost all of them were at full capacity. Traffic is back to its outrageous levels. Ppl are visiting from all over the world again.

Not a single Resturant that I have seen is fuckin with no 25% capacity. They are all fully open to full capacity.

Ppl have been locked down for so long now that they are dying to get back to normal and just saying fuck Gov Newsome and doing whatever they want again. Which is great. Except for the horrendous traffic being back.
 

Scot

Pro Bowler
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dbair1967

Administrator
1 week after CA opening indoor dining to 25% and this city is back to fucking normal. It took me over an hour to get home from Hollywood today (which would normally take about 30 minutes) and all along the way driving down Sunset Blvd I could see in all the Resturant’s windows and see that almost all of them were at full capacity. Traffic is back to its outrageous levels. Ppl are visiting from all over the world again.

Not a single Resturant that I have seen is fuckin with no 25% capacity. They are all fully open to full capacity.

Ppl have been locked down for so long now that they are dying to get back to normal and just saying fuck Gov Newsome and doing whatever they want again. Which is great. Except for the horrendous traffic being back.

Yeah, but did you wear 4 masks at the same time?
 

Scot

Pro Bowler
Nope

But I did see plenty of ppl wearing two masks

My wife showed up one day wearing two masks. I asked her wtf she was thinking. She said the news says it is safer to wear two masks.

(I get her fear, she is paranoid of Covid because she is asthmatic and extremely susceptible to respiratory infections. Getting Covid would be a real bad deal for her)

I said stop, just fucking stop with the two masks. She started to say “but the experts say” and I said the experts also said “two weeks to flatten the curve over a year ago”

She never wore two masks again
 

Creeper

Practice Squad
Almost everyone I know voted for Trump, and far less than half are saying (or admitting) they got the vaccine.

Not one of them have made the fucking lame statement you just made. Their rationale was almost identical to mine or CML's. Does what you claim "exist", maybe. Is it the reason most are choosing to NOT get it, fuck no.

Like I said, it was a fucking retarded point you made.

I have friends on both sides of the aisle, some very staunch Trump supporters who got vaccinated and some ultra liberals who won't. I don't think the decision to get it or not has anything to do with ideology. It has to do with the information we are getting from all different sources.

People do not understand why, for example, we need to wear masks if we are vaccinated, or if we already had Covid. If the vaccines work, the people who have been vaccinated cannot get sick and cannot spread the virus to others who have been vaccinated. The only people who can get sick are those who have not been vaccinated.
These folks are taking a risk they chose to take.

But Fauci is claiming that those who are not vaccinated are giving the virus a path to mutate into a virus that is not effected by the vaccines. For this to happen, the virus would need to find an entirely new way of entering into human cells to reproduce. It would be a significant mutation to an almost entirely new virus. FAuci is not telling us the likelihood of such an event. Probably because it is miniscule. So far all known variants are contained by the vaccines. The other problem with Fauci's argument is we will never vaccinate 100% of the human population around the world even if we mandate the vaccine in America. There will always be human infection which will lead to mutations.

What is bizarre about the approach to the vaccines is it is the virologic equivalent of the "Cheney Doctrine" which the people pushing the covid controls opposed vehemently. The fact is, Fauci and others are arguing we need to lock down, mask up, and vaccinate everyone with pharmaceuticals that were only approved on an emergency basis only to prevent something we simply cannot prevent, which is the mutation of a virus.

They keep moving the goal posts and some people have lost trust in the people telling us what is in our own best interests. The only thing irrational about this is that the people aren't in the streets demanding the truth and the facts.
 

Scot

Pro Bowler
My understanding (I could be wrong) is that a person who has been vaccinated can contract and then carry the virus for a short period of time and infect a non vaccinated person during that small window of time.
 

dbair1967

Administrator
I have friends on both sides of the aisle, some very staunch Trump supporters who got vaccinated and some ultra liberals who won't. I don't think the decision to get it or not has anything to do with ideology. It has to do with the information we are getting from all different sources.

People do not understand why, for example, we need to wear masks if we are vaccinated, or if we already had Covid. If the vaccines work, the people who have been vaccinated cannot get sick and cannot spread the virus to others who have been vaccinated. The only people who can get sick are those who have not been vaccinated.
These folks are taking a risk they chose to take.

But Fauci is claiming that those who are not vaccinated are giving the virus a path to mutate into a virus that is not effected by the vaccines. For this to happen, the virus would need to find an entirely new way of entering into human cells to reproduce. It would be a significant mutation to an almost entirely new virus. FAuci is not telling us the likelihood of such an event. Probably because it is miniscule. So far all known variants are contained by the vaccines. The other problem with Fauci's argument is we will never vaccinate 100% of the human population around the world even if we mandate the vaccine in America. There will always be human infection which will lead to mutations.

What is bizarre about the approach to the vaccines is it is the virologic equivalent of the "Cheney Doctrine" which the people pushing the covid controls opposed vehemently. The fact is, Fauci and others are arguing we need to lock down, mask up, and vaccinate everyone with pharmaceuticals that were only approved on an emergency basis only to prevent something we simply cannot prevent, which is the mutation of a virus.

They keep moving the goal posts and some people have lost trust in the people telling us what is in our own best interests. The only thing irrational about this is that the people aren't in the streets demanding the truth and the facts.
So basically, Fauci is an incompetent liar and the entire thing is driven on an agenda that has nothing to do with public health.
 

Creeper

Practice Squad
My understanding (I could be wrong) is that a person who has been vaccinated can contract and then carry the virus for a short period of time and infect a non vaccinated person during that small window of time.

This is what they are telling us, but it is a guess not a fact. And this is the problem. The experts are doing a lot of guessing when they do not know the answer. Remember when they told us that immunity did not last long or that there was no immunity for people who had recovered from COVID. Now studies show that a year after infection, over 99.7% of recovered patients are still immune to reinfection. The "experts" believe immunity lasts much longer than originally expected.

Think of how the vaccines work. They attack the protein that the spikes on the virus are made of. This prevents the virus from entering cells to reproduce. If the vaccine works, then a vaccinated person who comes into contact with the virus will never have more of the virus than what he originally contracted and the amount of virus will diminish as the virus dies off. To transmit the virus to another person, the infected person has to be shedding a certain quantity of the virus, not just a single virus particle. So transmission from a vaccinated person is highly unlikely. Additionally, the vaccinated person, even if he is carrying the virus, will be asymptomatic and we have also discovered that these people are less likely to spread the virus.

And again, even if a vaccinated person contracts the virus, the only people he can infect are those who choose not to get vaccinated, which is their choice and the risk they take.

People need to remember that these vaccines have been approved only on an emergency basis. They have not been approved under normal circumstance because the testing was shortened to get the vaccines to market. in 1976 the government took similar steps to prevent an outbreak of Swine Flu. 2 1/2 months into a mass vaccination program the program was stopped because 1, that's ONE, person died after getting vaccinated and 5 others were diagnosed with Gillian-Barre Syndrome. That's out of 40 million people vaccinated in the US.

Personally, I think the vaccines are safe and a lot of misinformation has cluttered people's heads. They are focusing on a few individual cases of reactions to the vaccine, ignoring the number of people vaccinated with few severe side effects. However, it is still their choice to get vaccinated or not or to risk illness. If the government can punish us for not getting vaccinated then what else can they force us to do for our own health benefits?
 

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yimyammer

Quality Starter





I wonder if that was a unilateral decision on the flight attendants part, any power, however small corrupts
 

dbair1967

Administrator
I hope that shitass airline and their fucktard people go bankrupt as hell after this.

Nobody in their right mind should ever fly with that garbage company ever again.
 

Dodger12

Super Moderator
I wonder if that was a unilateral decision on the flight attendants part, any power, however small corrupts

This is spot on Yim and one of the main issues I have with all the mandates. We've seen health inspectors and even police officers act in a way we shouldn't expect from our civil servants. And lets not even get into our elected officials who have destroyed people and thier lives. It absolutely corrupts.
 
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