Pick 74: Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor

[junk]

So in your opinion this wont help the worst are of the team, running the ball?

I think that 12 set with no full back and a big strong center is going to make a huge difference. Huge.

I hope we see some unbalanced looks with both tight ends on the same side and we run out if it. I also hope we bring back the toss out of the 12 set.

I think I've already stated why I don't think it will work. I'll state them again.

1. League history
2. Lack of ingenuity from the OC

 

[Theebs]

I think I've already stated why I don't think it will work. I'll state them again.

1. League history
2. Lack of ingenuity from the OC

Won't help the running game, got it.

 

[cmd34]

You want to improve the Run game, get real competition or replace Free, get at least one new Guard, and a change of pace back-up RB.

Still talented RB's available in the 4th round.
Franklin, Taylor, Lattimore, Ellington, Randle, Barner, etc.


Running out of time for quality OL.
Brian Schwenke, Barrett Jones, and Khaled Holmes all have starting experience at Guard. David Bakhtiari might make a decent Guard, Chris Faulk could be a for-the-future type pick. Alvin Bailey maybe?

 

[junk]

The 9ers have been using the 2 TE offense for the past couple of years with Vernon Davis and Delani Walker and whoops, just drafted Vance McDonald in the 2nd to uprade from Walker.

2012 Niners: 11th in yards, 11th in scoring
2011 Niners: 26th in yards, 11th in scoring

 

[Theebs]

Seems to me free will be replaced, we will get another back tomorrow.

Guard is going to have to be managed from within I imagine.

 

[cmd34]

it's kind of hard to compare the 49ers offense to ours. They have a great O Line and running game. We throw the ball 50 times a game.

 

[junk]

Won't help the running game, got it.

No, don't think it will create a prolific offense. If you want to improve the running game, wouldn't you get a TE who was a better blocker?

 

[dbair1967]

2012 Niners: 11th in yards, 11th in scoring
2011 Niners: 26th in yards, 11th in scoring

Niners D forces a lot of turnovers doesn't it.

 

[junk]

Niners D forces a lot of turnovers doesn't it.

What does that have to do with the efficiency of a two TE offense? Oh, short field, not as much of a chance to gain yards.

Explain scoring then.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You want to improve the Run game, get real competition or replace Free, get at least one new Guard, and a change of pace back-up RB.

Still talented RB's available in the 4th round.
Franklin, Taylor, Lattimore, Ellington, Randle, Barner, etc.


Running out of time for quality OL.
Brian Schwenke, Barrett Jones, and Khaled Holmes all have starting experience at Guard. David Bakhtiari might make a decent Guard, Chris Faulk could be a for-the-future type pick. Alvin Bailey maybe?

Jeff Baca
Earl Watford
Travis Bond
JC Tretter are some options too

 

[Theebs]

No, don't think it will create a prolific offense. If you want to improve the running game, wouldn't you get a TE who was a better blocker?

Why can't Escobar be a good blocker? he is huge. Him next to Tyron smith is going to be a large mass of humanity with a physical powerful back running behind it in Murray.

Saying u just want a blocking tight end seems short sighted if u have a player like this available.

Ne, cincy, Philly, Dallas, Washington, sf all will have killer two tight end sets. For some reason it's not ok here.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't see a trend there, theebs. Oh wait.

 

[dbair1967]

What does that have to do with the efficiency of a two TE offense? Oh, short field, not as much of a chance to gain yards.

Explain scoring then.

Getting lots of turnovers enhances your ability to score points. We don't get many, and haven't for years. We are constantly at the bottom of the league in things like average starting field position.

 

[cmd34]

Jeff Baca
Earl Watford
Travis Bond
JC Tretter are some options too

Baca sucks to me and I'm weary of really small school Guards lately.

 

[junk]

Why can't Escobar be a good blocker? he is huge. Him next to Tyron smith is going to be a large mass of humanity with a physical powerful back running behind it in Murray.

Saying u just want a blocking tight end seems short sighted if u have a player like this available.

Ne, cincy, Philly, Dallas, Washington, sf all will have killer two tight end sets. For some reason it's not ok here.

I'm not saying I want a blocking TE. I don't want a TE at all in two.

You build a more prolific offense by investing those resources in other positions. Namely, OL and WR. History has shown this.

Everyone is suddenly spouting off about SF's apparently amazing 11th ranked offense. Guess what? They have a great OL, a stacked team and a slew of picks, so they can afford to throw a late 2 at another TE.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

junk, you should go Hostile style on Jim Harbaugh and write to him telling him to quit trying with the 2-TE offense.

 

[junk]

Why can't Escobar be a good blocker? he is huge. Him next to Tyron smith is going to be a large mass of humanity with a physical powerful back running behind it in Murray.

Saying u just want a blocking tight end seems short sighted if u have a player like this available.

Ne, cincy, Philly, Dallas, Washington, sf all will have killer two tight end sets. For some reason it's not ok here.

Teams keep trying and it just doesn't work. Even NE had a more prolific offense when they weren't based around two TEs.

3 second round picks in 6 years on a team with major holes.

Like I said, on paper it sounds great, in practice, not so much.

Give me an offense other than NE where this has been prolific.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm not saying I want a blocking TE. I don't want a TE at all in two.

You build a more prolific offense by investing those resources in other positions. Namely, OL and WR. History has shown this.

Which we did, and 3 more rounds still left to go.

Everyone is suddenly spouting off about SF's apparently amazing 11th ranked offense. Guess what? They have a great OL, a stacked team and a slew of picks, so they can afford to throw a late 2 at another TE.

And yet they still keep seeking out on this useless endeavor. Insane.

 

[dbair1967]

Teams keep trying and it just doesn't work. Even NE had a more prolific offense when they weren't based around two TEs.

3 second round picks in 6 years on a team with major holes.

Like I said, on paper it sounds great, in practice, not so much.

Give me an offense other than NE where this has been prolific.

Washington under Joe Gibbs for an eternity?

 

[junk]

junk, you should go Hostile style on Jim Harbaugh and write to him telling him to quit trying with the 2-TE offense.

Bob, you guys really can't offer any sort of counter argument other than SF, who already has a deep team and a ton of picks, took a TE and that NE made it work after like a decade of trying.

That's it. That is really the extent of your argument. History does not support it.