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Dodger12

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Seems like its probably drugs

A short while ago he produced a drug test that showed negative for narcotics. But I still think the dude is off. He's bipolar or something for sure. Probably fried by all the weed he's smoked.

I get that these rich folks are different and eccentric but I just can't see how possibly splitting the Republican vote can benefit X/Twitter and will probably subject him to potential moderation thus killing the platform. But maybe he's thinking of the EV mandates that may help Tesla. Either way, he's lost me as a potential Tesla customer.
 

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The ugly rumor yesterday was somehow mass amnesty was being pushed and considered, but Trump shut that down today in the Cabinet meeting.

 

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The ugly rumor yesterday was somehow mass amnesty was being pushed and considered, but Trump shut that down today in the Cabinet meeting.



I think we should consider and debate some level of amnesty. Lets say someone has been here for 10+ years, maybe 15...give conditional amnesty if no felonies have been committed or are committed + other preconditions, then after 5 years, they receive citizenship (but they have to pass the exam and do everything an immigrant has to do in order to obtain it legally). They could also demand all illegal immigrants who arrived prior to the 10 or 15 year period have to register for self deportation by a certain date (extending the previous offer made by the Trump administration). Anyone found in the country after that date forever forfeits the opportunity to became a citizen. Then add the real kicker that amnesties can never vote in any elections or be counted for determining the number of representatives per state. Dems, ACLU, et al would lose their mind at the latter but if this was made law, it would pull the rug out from under any motivation politicians would have for bringing in illegal immigrants for votes

I can feel dbair1967 blood boiling at the mere suggestion
 

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I think we should consider and debate some level of amnesty. Lets say someone has been here for 10+ years, maybe 15...give conditional amnesty if no felonies have been committed or are committed + other preconditions, then after 5 years, they receive citizenship (but they have to pass the exam and do everything an immigrant has to do in order to obtain it legally). They could also demand all illegal immigrants who arrived prior to the 10 or 15 year period have to register for self deportation by a certain date (extending the previous offer made by the Trump administration). Anyone found in the country after that date forever forfeits the opportunity to became a citizen. Then add the real kicker that amnesties can never vote in any elections or be counted for determining the number of representatives per state. Dems, ACLU, et al would lose their mind at the latter but if this was made law, it would pull the rug out from under any motivation politicians would have for bringing in illegal immigrants for votes

I can feel dbair1967 blood boiling at the mere suggestion
I still think people should be coming here legally. It's not fair to those that do go through the process the right way. (For ex my wife, she is from South Korea and she said the process took her 6 yrs for her family to go through, it also was fairly expensive to go through the process itself). Almost anybody can come here if they do it legally and go through the vetting process.

That said, I ultimately don't have a huge problem with people that come here to make a better life for their family. If these people come here, work, pay taxes, stay out of trouble (absolutely no crime at all) and are not entitled to any type of tax payer funded assistance or get voting privileges etc etc. I also think people should be required to learn English as part of the process of moving here permanently. I shouldn't need to adapt myself or my lifestyle to people that come here.
 

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You're 100% correct. How is this even possible? These are not judges...they're radical ideologues in black robes.


Wait. I didn't see this. How can a judge rule a provision in a reconciliation bill approved by both houses of congress and the president is unlawful? That's insane.
 

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I still think people should be coming here legally. It's not fair to those that do go through the process the right way. (For ex my wife, she is from South Korea and she said the process took her 6 yrs for her family to go through, it also was fairly expensive to go through the process itself). Almost anybody can come here if they do it legally and go through the vetting process.

That said, I ultimately don't have a huge problem with people that come here to make a better life for their family. If these people come here, work, pay taxes, stay out of trouble (absolutely no crime at all) and are not entitled to any type of tax payer funded assistance or get voting privileges etc etc. I also think people should be required to learn English as part of the process of moving here permanently. I shouldn't need to adapt myself or my lifestyle to people that come here.

I have no problem with people coming here legally and it is an injustice that we allow people to sneak into the country and stay while so many others do it the right way, which is costly and time consuming.

But I also think immigration must be controlled. We can let it be a free for all.
 

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I agree with much of both of the above. I think the legal process has become like everything else in government, overly tedious, no sense of urgency and extremely time consuming which makes it very difficult to try come in legally. I'm in construction and have tried to help guys get legal status that are even married to american women. 7+ years into the process including spending money on immigration attorneys and there's no light at he end of the tunnel

I agree on speaking English plus I want immigrants like the ones I've met that escaped horrific places like Cuba, USSR bloc countries from the 80's, N Koreans, et al who when they got here, they kissed the ground we walk on and LOVE and totally appreciate the constitutional rights and freedoms we have. They know first hand why they're so valuable. This mindset built our country.

Sadly it seems more Americans born here seem to hate the country, constantly licking their perceived wounds while grandstanding their virtue for bearing the cross they invented. I think it would be great for kids to spend 6 months abroad as part of high school eduction so eyes are opened to how amazing this country is. I traveled around the world for 4 months after I got out of college (1988) and spent half that time in soviet bloc countries like Hungary, Yugoslavia, Czechoslavia, Romania, Bulgaria, etc....You could feel the oppression in the air, everything was gloomy and grey and hearts were heavy, without hope. I dont see how anyone could experience places like this (go to Cuba or N Korea now for a similar experience) and come away with the conclusion socialism/communism is the way to go.
 
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