The One Big Ass Parsons Trade Tracker

[English Cowboy]

Reggie White never disappeared whenever the opponent really wanted him to. And was outstanding against the run.

He disappeared when Erik Williams wanted him to.

 

[dbair1967]

He disappeared when Erik Williams wanted him to.

This is true.

EW could make everyone disappear. From 92-pre car wreck 1994 he was one of the most dominant players in the league.

The league is lucky we never had prime EW alongside 73. We had 75% EW at best after he came back from injury (he was still good, but not overwhelming like he was)

 

[Dodger12]

Reggie White never disappeared whenever the opponent really wanted him to. And was outstanding against the run.

Reggie had his issues as well, especially with Big E. But all that aside, Parsons is the only guy to match his sack stats for his first 4 years. That's a lot of edge rushers between then and now. Parsons is one of those players that teams have to game plan for and account for on game day. If it makes you guys feel better about the trade, have at it. But don't post foolish crap either.

 

[Doomsday]

Reggie had his issues as well, especially with Big E. But all that aside, Parsons is the only guy to match his sack stats for his first 4 years. That's a lot of edge rushers between then and now. Parsons is one of those players team have to game plan for and account for on game day. If it makes you guys feel better about the trade, have at it. But don't post foolish crap either.

Comparing Parsons with a hall of famer simply on sack numbers in this generation of pass happy offenses is the foolish crap. Imagine what White would have, destroying pass happy offenses today. Now try putting Parsons on D in Reggie's era. It's a man and a boy. Parsons probably doesn't even become a starter.

Context. Perspective.

 

[English Cowboy]

I'm definitely now more optimistic about our run defense. But conversely I'm now really worried about our pass defense. I'm not sure we can get consistent pressure on the QB now without some blitz schemes. And I'm concerned about our secondary. I doubt Revel sees the field much, if at all, this season. I'll be pleasantly surprised if Diggs manages more than half-a-dozen games too. Elam was good in training camp, but there is a big difference between doing it in camp and doing it in real games. Huge question marks there imho.

 

[Doomsday]

I'm definitely now more optimistic about our run defense. But conversely I'm now really worried about our pass defense. I'm not sure we can get consistent pressure on the QB now without some blitz schemes. And I'm concerned about our secondary. I doubt Revel sees the field much, if at all, this season. I'll be pleasantly surprised if Diggs manages more than half-a-dozen games too. Elam was good in training camp, but there is a big difference between doing it in camp and doing it in real games. Huge question marks there imho.

We're in uncharted waters. But as pointed out earlier, our D has been pretty piss poor.

 

[English Cowboy]

We're in uncharted waters. But as pointed out earlier, our D has been pretty piss poor.

True. But what annoys me about the Parsons trade is not that Jerry pulled the trigger on it (only time will tell if it was the right thing to do), but that he didn't get it sorted one way or the other long before now. Same with CeeDee and Dak. Jerry takes way too long getting his ducks in a row with these big contract negotiations, to the detriment of the team's salary cap situation. If it's true that Micah went back on a handshake 6 months ago then Jerry should have made him available for trade immediately.

Going back to the secondary, I think we'll miss Jourdan Lewis more than we yet realize, and he could have easily been re-signed if Jerry would just pull his thumb out of his ass and not let things drift until the season is almost upon us (although I'm sure he loves all the extra publicity it brings).

 

[Doomsday]

but that he didn't get it sorted one way or the other long before now

Well. Some of us were calling for a trade pre draft where presumably we get a much better haul.

If it's true that Micah went back on a handshake 6 months ago then Jerry should have made him available for trade immediately

Jerry's saying the handshake was in April.

 

[bbgun]

You guys are a trip......MIcah's such a regular guy that his only statistical comparison is Reggie White. Eagles fans are absolutely elated.

There are a lot of petty people on this forum. Well, not a lot. There's only five members. Some of them used to complain that Micah never got holding calls. That too has been memory holed.

 

[touchdown]

 

[dbair1967]

If it's true that Micah went back on a handshake 6 months ago then Jerry should have made him available for trade immediately.

Jerry clearly didn't want to trade Parsons and that's why his turd agent advised Parsons to turn into a giant walking turd himself.

If Parsons had not pulled the shit he did at the Falcons game he would not be in Green Bay today. I firmly believe that.

They traded him because coaches and players said enough was enough and even Jerry couldn't come to grips with having him around anymore.

 

[dbair1967]

Going back to the secondary, I think we'll miss Jourdan Lewis more than we yet realize, and he could have easily been re-signed if Jerry would just pull his thumb out of his ass and not let things drift until the season is almost upon us (although I'm sure he loves all the extra publicity it brings).

Jourdan Lewis was a really solid player for us and a good guy for the locker room, but Jacksonville paid a lot to get him. 3yrs/30mils with 20 mils guaranteed is a lot for a guy who is purely a nickel CB and doesn't get many interceptions (10 for his career)

Lewis also just turned 30.

 

[dbair1967]

There are a lot of petty people on this forum. Well, not a lot. There's only five members. Some of them used to complain that Micah never got holding calls. That too has been memory holed.

Rock solid 100% lock.

Parsons will lead the league in holding calls this year.

It won't even be close.

 

[Dodger12]

There are a lot of petty people on this forum. Well, not a lot. There's only five members. Some of them used to complain that Micah never got holding calls. That too has been memory holed.

Yes....a ton of mental gymnastics in this thread.

 

[Dodger12]

Comparing Parsons with a hall of famer simply on sack numbers in this generation of pass happy offenses is the foolish crap. Imagine what White would have, destroying pass happy offenses today. Now try putting Parsons on D in Reggie's era. It's a man and a boy. Parsons probably doesn't even become a starter.

Context. Perspective.

You can't move the goal posts. The truth is that Parsons is the only guy in that discussion from Reggie's playing days until today. That doesn't make him better than Reggie. But it does make the guy a top level guy. I thought the guy was a generational talent. Did last season and the GB playoff before that sour that opinion? Sure....but just a bit. Because I know where the issues lie on this team and that's with the guy under center.

So you and Happy David just go on and make yourselves feel better. I don't like the fact that we lost Parsons. I understand why it happened and, unfortunately, it had to happen because the guy looked like he was becoming a cancer. But that doesn't mean I don't see what the guy brought to the table. Real HC's and DC's would know what to do with the guy but he wasted under Zimmer. He'd be a demon in a BB scheme.

And I don't even know what we're arguing here. I'd be willing to bet that most teams would take a guy like Parsons and would give up a #1 plus. We got two #1 picks plus a decent player from a playoff caliber team. That in and of itself tells you how NFL people view Parsons.

 

[dbair1967]

You can't move the goal posts. The truth is that Parsons is the only guy in that discussion from Reggie's playing days until today. That doesn't make him better than Reggie. But it does make the guy a top level guy. I thought the guy was a generational talent. Did last season and the GB playoff before that sour that opinion? Sure....but just a bit. Because I know where the issues lie on this team and that's with the guy under center.

So you and Happy David just go on and make yourselves feel better. I don't like the fact that we lost Parsons. I understand why it happened and, unfortunately, it had to happen because the guy looked like he was becoming a cancer. But that doesn't mean I don't see what the guy brought to the table. Real HC's and DC's would know what to do with the guy but he wasted under Zimmer. He'd be a demon in a BB scheme.

And I don't even know what we're arguing here. I'd be willing to bet that most teams would take a guy like Parsons and would give up a #1 plus. We got two #1 picks plus a decent player from a playoff caliber team. That in and of itself tells you how NFL people view Parsons.

I'm not arguing at all.

I was always on the fence whether we should pay him or trade him, I was ok either way. After last season I began thinking that with the cap situation the way it was and the fact that we really hadn't won anything WITH him, that maybe they SHOULD consider moving him. His antics from the last month sealed the deal for me. He turned into a huge turd and needed to be removed.

I've also been pretty consistent over the last couple yrs what I didn't like about him. I hate the disinterested sulk face act. He does it too much. Now maybe some of it is he hates the environment and if so, ok. But nobody likes to see someone who just stares up at the sky and seems like they'd rather be anywhere but there. Especially when their team is losing.

He was drafted to be a LB and by necessity we found out he was a great pass rusher. He has an uncanny ability to get into the backfield. Bill Belichick says he is the closest thing to LT since LT and he is an authority on that. But maybe Parsons needed a coach like a Belichick to truly maximize his ability. LT was a coke head but he was also 100% driven to win and dominate, I don't see that in Parsons. I think Parsons is just as much about his brand and other stuff as he is football and maybe some of that is the stupid way Jerry enables people. Maybe that changes with the new scenery.

He's really talented, at times he is really good. Too many times he disappears and has been almost a complete non-factor in 4 postseason games. I wouldn't put him in the same class as a PLAYER as guys like Reggie White and LT yet. And I do find it eye opening that players around the league apparently DONT see him as an overwhelming, once in a generation type player like fans and media do.

 

[Doomsday]

I'd be willing to bet that most teams would take a guy like Parsons and would give up a #1 plus. We got two #1 picks plus a decent player from a playoff caliber team. That in and of itself tells you how NFL people view Parsons.

Annnnd I'll throw you this little bone. I seriously doubt anyone we pick with the four first round picks we now have for the next two drafts, will be better than Parsons. Also:

Jerry clearly didn't want to trade Parsons and that's why his turd agent advised Parsons to turn into a giant walking turd himself.

If Parsons had not pulled the shit he did at the Falcons game he would not be in Green Bay today. I firmly believe that.

They traded him because coaches and players said enough was enough and even Jerry couldn't come to grips with having him around anymore.

This. Parsons stays and gets hugely overpaid sans the home preseason antics.

 

[bbgun]

Unlike Watt or Garrett, Parsons is not a complete player. He's a demon pass rusher but has little interest in the run. But if Chris Doleman can get to the HOF just by being one dimensional, so can Micah.

 

[dbair1967]

Unlike Watt or Garrett, Parsons is not a complete player. He's a demon pass rusher but has little interest in the run. But if Chris Doleman can get to the HOF just by being one dimensional, so can Micah.

Yep, agree and good comparison.

 

[dbair1967]

This. Parsons stays and gets hugely overpaid sans the home preseason antics.

I don't think he'd have gotten paid here at that point either. I just think Jones was so intent on not trading him that they'd have tried to ride it out and hope that he eventually came in.

The antics got him run off.