Spencer signs his franchise tag deal

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Ben Grubbs + Kameron Wimbley = $8,180,000 in cap room.

Nate Livings + Anthony Spencer = $10,040,001 in cap room. Plus, Spencer is a FA again after the season.
 

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Shit got real for a minute.

lol. You'd never see mod on mod crime like this at the zzzzzone.

Bravo, Gentlemen. Bravo.
 

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Ben Grubbs + Kameron Wimbley = $8,180,000 in cap room.

Nate Livings + Anthony Spencer = $10,040,001 in cap room. Plus, Spencer is a FA again after the season.

You mean the same Ben Grubbs who graded out worse than Holland this year?

I think he's a decent starter, but I've always thought he was a overrated. He definitely isnt in Carl Nick's class or even remotely close.

As for Wimbley, again Rob Ryan coached the guy. If he had wanted him or told Garrett and Jones & co that Wimbley was as good or better than Spencer, I'm sure they'd have signed Wimbley and let Spencer walk. Obviously he didnt do that.

And Spencer being a f/a after this yr is a good thing. No more cap room tied up into him nd we hopefully find his replacement this year.
 

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lol no.

And his responsibilties were the same for what homers like you are raving about Spencer, only Johnson set the edge and the tempo for that D, much, much better. Hence why they could live, even excel, with his meager sack production.

doesnt appear much better when looks at the numbers Bob

as mediocre as Spencer is at pass rushing, his numbers basically dwarf Johnson's and nobody really questions Spencer's play vs the run or out in coverage
 

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doesnt appear much better when looks at the numbers Bob

as mediocre as Spencer is at pass rushing, his numbers basically dwarf Johnson's and nobody really questions Spencer's play vs the run or out in coverage

It's not the numbers, david.

Despite the numbers, the Baltimore pass-rush was still lethal.
 

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So is Spencer!

I agree, although he is at a different level of JAG

Better player. Spencer doesnt do it enough, but there have been games he turned it on, and he was a dominant player the 2nd half of 2009.
 

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Instead of always bitching and complaining, perhaps you should throw some sort of legit idea out there.

So lets pretend in your little world that they never franchised Spencer. Who would start at OLB in our scheme TODAY? Who can they reasonably get this weekend that would be at LEAST AS GOOD as what Spencer is, without question?

I've said multiple times they could have put that money to other players.

Here's something.

Combined cap hit in 2011 for Spencer + Bernadette = 10.6M

Combined cap hit in 2011 for Kamerion Wimbley, Scott Wells, Ben Grubbs = 10.6M
 
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I've said multiple times they could have put that money to other players.

Here's something.

Combined cap hit in 2011 for Spencer + Bernadette = 10.6M

Combined cap hit in 2011 for Kamerion Wimbley, Scott Wells, Ben Grubbs = 10.6M

Yup, what's that tell ya?
 

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I've said multiple times they could have put that money to other players.

Here's something.

Combined cap hit in 2011 for Spencer + Bernadette = 10.6M

Combined cap hit in 2011 for Kamerion Wimbley, Scott Wells, Ben Grubbs = 10.6M

Those other 3 have alot more cap dead weight if you try to term the player though, we have basically none with the two you mention.

Wimbley isnt that much better than Spencer, and as I've mentioned in this thread apparently the guy on our staff who coached him thinks Spencer is the better player by a considerable margin. Wells is already 31 and Grubbs graded out lower than JAG Holland this year. I'm not sure GB and Baltimore made any effort to resign either of them.
 

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Mario Williams' 2012 cap number is $9.06M. I'd much rather pay that than give Spencer $8.8M. Williams cost about $267,000 more than Anthony Spencer. Mario fricking Williams.


Jarret Johnson's 2012 cap number? $2.5M

Kameron Wimbley's 2012 cap number is $4.3M.

but we made the right call.

bro you're comparing apples to pipe bombs here when you try to throw a franchise tag number against the first year of multi-year contracts. Just no point even comparing the two. Spencer costs alot this year but at least we're not locked in.
 
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