How ugly will things get if we lose to the Titans

[Omegasupreme]

TE just bear with me on this. For all of Jason's blather and cliche fillers that are in his speeches, he spends a lot of time talking about the majesty of the NFL. I uses to think it was just his own goofy way of maintaining standards to his team but I'm beginning to think he mentions that stuff so often because it's above him. He can't manage the games, he rarely changes formations and spends very little time with anything unusual or trick. Think about it. Why is he not desperate to win? He can't hold a lead and at the point of masterful strategy or Hail Mary he offers nothing but his usual plays he called in the 2rd quarter. One reason he might not be desperate to will the team to win is if he were not really interested in the position in the first place. He likes to play the role of sidecar or understudy. He liked being Aikmans backup, QB coach, OC etc, and even his college career had more to do with hiding in his family rather than accomplishing his own strong resume. Add to that Jones's comment that if he got rid of Jason he would lose all the time they put in, which to me makes Jason seem like there is a great deal of advising and guiding behind the scenes. Just would not surprise me to see Jason let go and him go work as an OC or college coach. And to find out later that he was pushed into HC and didn't want it. Packers beat Dallas 45-7 and then offense was getting destroyed so Jerry promotes the coach who was killing Romo calling the same plays over and over and couldn't manufacture more than 7 points. Really odd.

 

[Rynie]

Why would he want to be a college HC if you say he doesn't want to be an NFL HC?

 

[boozeman]

Don't care.

I just know at the end of it all, it will never be enough of an embarrassment and make the one responsible for our organization sucking change what he does.

 

[Omegasupreme]

Less pressure. Less individual time being responsible for the players. He can always claim process and development in college. Really he only needs to develop a good player for a year or 2. Especially since he is so limited in his system, no one will ever stay long enough in his system to see it fail badly with new athletes and cast of characters every few years. Just my analysis. We shall see

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Omega, I hear you, but I think he wanted to do this and it never occurred to him he wouldn't be good at it.

Would he like to go into the shadows for a while at this point? Maybe so -- or maybe he will if things really go south and he gets a lot of heat for the first time. But I don't think he did in the beginning. Posted it before, but I think he bought into all his own hype and everyone telling him his whole life how smart he was and how good a coach he'd be. And when he first took over and went 5-3 and then 7-4, he thought getting this team to win was just as easy as he thought it was. Then he screwed up a few games, hit some hard times, didn't know how to react, and couldn't get things going again. And now he still doesn't know how to get the team out of its rut.

If you're right and he doesn't want to do this, he can quit now and none of us would complain. :towel

 

[Doomsday]

Less pressure. Less individual time being responsible for the players.

And Moaaaaar moneeeee.... (Faster Horses, Younger Women, etc)

Jerruh's checkbook is fat, guys. Redball took the millions while marking time.

 

[Rynie]

Less pressure. Less individual time being responsible for the players. He can always claim process and development in college. Really he only needs to develop a good player for a year or 2. Especially since he is so limited in his system, no one will ever stay long enough in his system to see it fail badly with new athletes and cast of characters every few years. Just my analysis. We shall see

Fair enough.

 

[junk]

We're going to see what Romo has left in the tank. I personally think the wheels fall off this season and we're looking a huge cap hit and a team without a franchise QB. That would be the worse case scenario unless we're picking #1 and there's a QB worth the pick (Mariota?).

I've actually been looking into Romo's deal a bit. Cutting him this offseason is a ton of dead money, but it is only like $10 million more than having him on the roster.

It actually gets fairly reasonable to cut him after next year.

In theory, if you really wanted to and got cap creative, I think you could cut Romo in the offseason and bring Dez back. You probably wouldn't do much else though.

Then you'd be pretty healthy heading in the the next year. So, if they fall apart and pick a QB high next year.....I think it could work out OK.

 

[Doomsday]

In theory, if you really wanted to and got cap creative, I think you could cut Romo in the offseason and bring Dez back. You probably wouldn't do much else though.

Then you'd be pretty healthy heading in the the next year. So, if they fall apart and pick a QB high next year.....I think it could work out OK.

I trade Dez. While you still can and while he's not under a big contract. Get a 1st rounder and some late round picks for him.

Then you have that 1st rounder plus the #1 pick after this 2-14 season. Get a QB to compete with Vaughan, and draft some defensive help.

 

[Sheik]

Garrett is going to cry on the sideline pretty soon. You can see it in his face.

I wanna see it. That would make my year.

 

[Sheik]

And it would be perfect if he cried, then Michael Sam called him a fag.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

 

[Rynie]

And it would be perfect if he cried, then Michael Sam called him a fag.

Lmao.

 

[Hoofbite]

Garrett is going to cry on the sideline pretty soon. You can see it in his face.

I wanna see it. That would make my year.

What would be so bad about that.

Pretty sure Tom Landry cried at some point in his life.

 

[NoShame]

We'd be 0-2 (obviously) where the numbers say only like 12% of teams make the playoffs.

We'd then have the Rams, Saints, Texans, and Seahawks. Most likely we'd be 2-4 after our first six games. And that's only if we beat STL and HOU, which is no guarantee.

Will the general fanbase -- not the smarter people here -- start showing real disgust with Jerry and Red? Or will people still look to all the games we could win against teams like the Giants, Skins, and Jags?

I'm thinking this thing could really crumble and Jerry could finally start feeling the most heat he has since the Campo days, or maybe even ever, if we lose... But I don't want to get my hopes up. What do you guys say.

O-2 won't do shit. It's gonna have to be like 0-6 for Jerry to feel the need to do something. He's not pulling the trigger on Red unless it's real fuckin bad. And nobody hits the panic button after 0-2.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

I wasn't talking about him firing Red at 0-2. Obviously he wouldn't do that.

I was talking more about the realization that we're probably not making the playoffs -- looked it up and as of last year only 8.8% of playoff teams in the last decade+ started 0-2, and only 12% since the 12 team playoff format started in 1990. Big numbers of people might tune out if they see that there's about a 90% we're going five years in a row with no playoffs.

 

[UVAwahoos]

I'm game for any scenario that leads to Ginger getting canned of course. Really the worst part is that he ruined Romo's prime with his incompetence. We could have done some great things if Jerry had the foresight to give Sean Payton the same treatment he gave ginger. With a coach, I think the NFC east is wide open this year. Unfortunately we'll be racing to the bottom instead.

 

[boozeman]

I wasn't talking about him firing Red at 0-2. Obviously he wouldn't do that.

I was talking more about the realization that we're probably not making the playoffs -- looked it up and as of last year only 8.8% of playoff teams in the last decade+ started 0-2, and only 12% since the 12 team playoff format started in 1990. Big numbers of people might tune out if they see that there's about a 90% we're going five years in a row with no playoffs.

Don't think he cares as long as there is relevance and revenue. R comes before W in the alphabet and in his mind.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

True booze, I just have a feeling this might be the year we do fall out of relevance. We've been bailed out by staying close to .500 (and the terrible NFCE) the last few years, but that might not happen this year.

 

[Rynie]

www.firejasongarrett.com

So...this is a thing. They're trying to take donations to put up a billboard. I'm tempted to donate.