*** 2014 NFL Draft thread ***

[cmd34(work)]

Lot of fags in Tempe.

is this a joke? I haven't really noticed that element here (not that I would have an issue with it). Coming from Los Angeles to the ultra-conservative Arizona area, I don't really see that as much now.

 

[cmd34(work)]

glendale is really nice

Outside of the stadium and the mall right next to it, it's kind of a farm community. Still, I never have any issues driving to games there.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Outside of the stadium and the mall right next to it, it's kind of a farm community. Still, I never have any issues driving to games there.

maybe it was scottsdale, lol...was only there for a few days like 5 years ago

 

[cmd34(work)]

Scottsdale is incredibly nice. It's like Orange County (the elite part) back in Cali.

Lots of money in Scottsdale.

 

[GloryDaysRBack]

Scottsdale is incredibly nice. It's like Orange County (the elite part) back in Cali.

Lots of money in Scottsdale.

yeah, that was it then...orange county is sweet too...i was out in Dana Point for a few months...sweet place

 

[dbair1967]

Record 98 underclassmen declare


Updated: January 19, 2014,

NEW YORK -- A record 98 underclassmen, including Johnny Manziel and Jadeveon Clowney, have made themselves eligible for the NFL draft in May.



The NFL announced Sunday that 98 underclassmen were granted eligibility for the 2014 draft. That's the most ever, smashing last year's record.

The league released the list of early entrants Sunday and said the number has risen six straight seasons. The deadline for underclassmen to apply was Jan. 15.

Last year, 73 underclassmen entered the draft. The year before it was 65, and in 2011 it was 56.

Also, four players who recently graduated and still have eligibility left are joining the draft class but aren't included in the number. Most notable among those is Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater. Southern California defensive back Dion Bailey, Arizona State linebacker Carl Bradford and Alabama linebacker Adrian Hubbard are also juniors who have informed the league they have graduated.

Among the early entrants expected to be selected near the top of the draft are Manziel, the Texas A&M quarterback, Clowney, the defensive end from South Carolina, and Clemson receiver Sammy Watkins.

The draft is May 8-10 in New York.

LSU for the second straight season had the most players of any school to leave early. The Tigers had seven early entrants this season, including wide receivers Jarvis Landry and Odell Beckham Jr., after 11 LSU players left early last year.

Alabama and Southern California each had five leave early, along with California. Cal, which went 1-11, has six players listed among the early entrants, but that includes defensive end Chris McCain, who was dismissed from the team in September.

National champion Florida State lost four players early, including All-American defensive tackle Timmy Jernigan and receiver Kelvin Benjamin, who caught the winning touchdown in the BCS National Championship against Auburn. Notre Dame, Florida and South Carolina also had four early entrants.

 

[dbair1967]

Draft-eligible non-seniors had until Jan. 15 to declare for the 2014 NFL draft, held on May 8-10 at Radio City Music Hall in New York City.
In alphabetical order, below are the players who declared for the draft.

Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (Scouts Inc. grade: 82)
ESPN.com: Amaro to leave Texas Tech

Dion Bailey, OLB, USC (Scouts Inc. grade: 50)
ESPN.com: Bailey to forgo final year

Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU (Scouts Inc. grade: 81)
ESPN.com: Beckham to leave Tigers for NFL

Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State (Scouts Inc. grade: 88)
ESPN.com: Benjamin headed to the NFL

Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida (Scouts Inc. grade: 91)
ESPN.com: Bortles declares for the draft
McShay: Bortles has the highest ceiling of any QB in the '14 class Insider

Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville (Scouts Inc. grade: 92)
Kiper: Bridgewater's an early lock Insider

Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Arizona (Scouts Inc. grade: 81)
ESPN.com: Carey leaves Wildcats to enter NFL draft

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama (Scouts Inc. grade: 91)
ESPN.com: Clinton-Dix, Kouandjio to enter draft

Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina (Scouts Inc. grade: 96)
Kiper: Clowney will bring immediate impact Insider

Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State (Scouts Inc. grade: 83)
ESPN.com: Cooks to enter '14 draft

Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State (Scouts Inc. grade: 90)
ESPN.com: Crichton to leave for NFL draft

Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri (Scouts Inc. grade: 83)
ESPN.com: Ealy to leave Missouri early

Dominique Easley, DT, Florida (Scouts Inc. grade: 91)
ESPN.com: Easley declares for draft

Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina (Scouts Inc. grade: 92)
ESPN.com: Ebron to enter draft

Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (Scouts Inc. grade: 90)
ESPN.com: Evans declares for NFL draft

Ego Ferguson, DT, LSU (Scouts Inc. grade: 86)
ESPN.com: Ferguson to leave Tigers for NFL

Victor Hampton, CB, South Carolina (Scouts Inc. grade: 50)
ESPN.com: Four Gamecocks declare for draft

Adrian Hubbard, LB, Alabama (Scouts Inc. grade: 75)
ESPN.com: Losing players nothing new for Tide

Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State (Scouts Inc. grade: 93)
ESPN.com: Jernigan leaves national champs to enter draft

Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU (Scouts Inc. grade: 85)
ESPN.com: Johnson headed for the NFL

Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama (Scouts Inc. grade: 90)
ESPN.com: Clinton-Dix, Kouandjio to enter draft

Marqise Lee, WR, USC (Scouts Inc. grade: 93)
ESPN.com: Lee to enter NFL draft

Aaron Lynch, DE, South Florida (Scouts Inc. grade: 79)
ESPN.com: Lynch declares for draft

Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M (Scouts Inc. grade: 90)
ESPN.com: Manziel declares
McShay: Manziel's ready, but will he be dedicated? Insider

Tre Mason, RB, Auburn (Scouts Inc. grade: 69)
ESPN.com: Mason leaves the Tigers for NFL draft

Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame (Scouts Inc. grade: 91)
ESPN.com: Nix III to enter draft

Jeoffrey Pagan, DE, Alabama (Scouts Inc. grade: 75)
ESPN.com: Losing players nothing new for Tide

Loucheiz Purifoy, CB, Florida (Scouts Inc. grade: 88)
ESPN.com: Purifoy to enter draft

Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee (Scouts Inc. grade: 87)
ESPN.com: Richardson to enter draft

Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado (Scouts Inc. grade: 88)
ESPN.com: Richardson heads to draft

Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida (Scouts Inc. grade: 89)
ESPN.com: Roberson to enter NFL draft

Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn (Kiper's Big Board: No. 9)
ESPN.com: Robinson to leave Tigers to enter NFL draft

Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State (Scouts Inc. grade: 81)
ESPN.com: Roby declares for draft

Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington (Scouts Inc. grade: 72)
ESPN.com: Sankey leaving for NFL

Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor (Scouts Inc. grade: 80)
ESPN.com: Seastrunk leaving Bears for NFL

Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington (Scouts Inc. grade: 87)
ESPN.com: Sankey, Seferian-Jenkins leaving for NFL

Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State (Scouts Inc. grade: 84)
ESPN.com: Ryan Shazier leaving Ohio State

De'Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon (Scouts Inc. grade: 86)
ESPN.com: Thomas leaving Ducks for the NFL

Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame (Scouts Inc. grade: 92)
ESPN.com: Tuitt leaves Notre Dame for NFL draft

Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson (Scouts inc. grade: 94)
ESPN.com: Watkins headed for the NFL draft
Kiper: Watkins could go as high as No. 2 Insider

James Wilder Jr., RB, Florida State
ESPN.com: Wilder leaves national champs for NFL

David Yankey, G, Stanford (Scouts Inc. grade: 80)
ESPN.com: Yankey to enter NFL draft

Others: Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State; Nick Addison, DB, Bethune-Cookman; George Atkinson III, RB, Notre Dame; Kapri Bibbs, RB, Colorado State; Brendan Bigelow, RB, California; Alfred Blue, RB, LSU; Russell Bodine, C, North Carolina; Chris Boyd, WR, Vanderbilt; Carl Bradford, DE, Arizona State; Bashaud Breeland, DB, Clemson; Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson; Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers; Isaiah Crowell, RB, Alabama State; Jonathan Dowling, CB, Western Kentucky; Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina; Mike Flacco, TE, New Haven; Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford; Khairi Fortt, LB, California; Austin Franklin, WR, New Mexico State; Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida State; Carlos Gray, DT, North Carolina State; Xavier Grimble, TE, USC; Terrance Hackney, T, Bethune-Cookman; Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU; Kameron Jackson, CB, California; Nic Jacobs, TE, McNeese State; Storm Johnson, RB, UCF; Henry Josey, RB, Missouri; Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU; Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana; Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State; A.C. Leonard, TE, Tennessee State; Albert Louis-Jean, DB, Boston College; Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon; Marcus Martin, C, USC; Chris McCain, DE, California; Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon; Viliami Moala, DT, Cal; Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss; Adam Muema, RB, San Diego State; Jake Murphy, TE, Utah; Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame; Ronald Powell, LB, Florida; Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville; Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina; Darrin Reaves, RB, UAB; Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford; Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State; Richard Rodgers, WR, Cal; Yawin Smallwood, ILB, UConn; Brett Smith, QB, Wyoming; Jerome Smith, RB, Syracuse; Willie Snead, WR, Ball State; John Spooney, RB, Brown; Josh Stewart, WR, Oklahoma State; Xavier Su'a-Filo, G, UCLA; Vinnie Sunseri, S, Alabama; Trai Turner, G, LSU; George Uko, DT, USC; Pierre Warren, FS, Jacksonville State; Terrance West, RB, Towson

 

[cmd34(work)]

Mel Kiper gives us poor draft grade right after draft = These guys are stupid.

Mel Kiper regrades draft after season and gives us higher grade = Proof that Jerry is killing it!

 

[dbair1967]

I thought Kiper gave us a C or or something right after the draft.

Not that I care, because grading drafts the day after they happen is pretty lame.

 

[dbair1967]

Click the links for commentary. (Must have ESPN Insider)

* - underclassman

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McShay

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...bortles-rising-top-32-rankings-2014-nfl-draft


1.. Jadeveon Clowney* DE South Carolina
2.. Greg Robinson * T Auburn
3.. Jake Matthews T Texas A&M
4.. Sammy Watkins* WR Clemson
5.. Timmy Jernigan* DT Florida St.

6.. Anthony Barr OLB UCLA
7.. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
8.. Khalil Mack OLB Buffalo
9.. Teddy Bridgewater* QB Louisville
10. Marqise Lee* WR USC

11. Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma St.
12. Blake Bortles* QB Central Florida
13. Mike Evans* WR Texas A&M
14. Taylor Lewan T Michigan
15. Stephon Tuitt* DE Notre Dame

16. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S Alabama
17. Louis Nix III* DT Notre Dame
18. Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan St.
19. Zack Martin T Notre Dame
20. Ra'Shede Hageman DT Minnesota

21. Johnny Manziel* QB Texas A&M
22. Eric Ebron* TE North Carolina
23. Loucheiz Purifoy* CB Florida
24. Cyrus Kouandjio* T Alabama
25. Aaron Donald DT Pittsburgh

26. Kony Ealy* DE Missouri
27. Lamarcus Joyner CB Florida St.
28. Jason Verrett CB TCU
29. Morgan Moses T Virginia
30. Davante Adams* WR Fresno St.
31. Calvin Pryor* S Louisville
32. Carlos Hyde RB Ohio St.


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Kiper

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draf...zack-martin-debuts-mel-kiper-latest-big-board


1.. Jadeveon Clowney* DE South Carolina
2.. Anthony Barr OLB UCLA
3.. Jake Matthews T Texas A&M
4.. Greg Robinson * T Auburn
5.. Khalil Mack OLB Buffalo

6.. Sammy Watkins* WR Clemson
7.. Eric Ebron* TE North Carolina
8.. Taylor Lewan T Michigan
9.. Teddy Bridgewater* QB Louisville
10. Blake Bortles* QB Central Florida

11. Johnny Manziel* QB Texas A&M
12. Timmy Jernigan* DT Florida St.
13. C.J. Mosley LB Alabama
14. Marqise Lee* WR USC
15. Mike Evans* WR Texas A&M

16. Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma St.
17. Zack Martin T Notre Dame
18. Darqueze Dennard CB Michigan St.
19. Ryan Shazier* OLB Ohio St.
20. Stephon Tuitt* DE Notre Dame

21. Cyrus Kouandjio* T Alabama
22. Louis Nix III* DT Notre Dame
23. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* S Alabama
24. Calvin Pryor* S Louisville
25. Jace Amaro* TE Texas Tech

 

[Midswat]

No way he's there at 16 now...

@WillBrinson: Aaron Donald (285 lbs) goes 4.65 on first unofficial 40

 

[Midswat]

‏@AdamSchefter·2 mins
South Carolina DE Jadeveon Clowney timed in 40 at an unofficial 4.47. Wow...

 

[Midswat]

‏@JimmyKempski·44 secs
1.59 sec 10 yard split for Aaron Donald at 285 lbs. Only .03 difference from Clowney. Please don't draft him, Cowboys.

 

[Midswat]

Aaron Donald’s also opening eyes with his 40

Posted by Darin Gantt on February 24, 2014, 9:24 AM EST


Jadeveon Clowney isn’t the only physical freak among the defensive linemen working out today at the Scouting Combine.

Pitt defensive tackle Aaron Donald just ran his first 40-yard dash in an unofficial 4.65 seconds.

At 290 pounds.

Even when that one’s inevitably rounded down a bit, that’s still stretching the laws of physics. When you multiply force times acceleration, it will make Donald a high pick anyway.

But the short-area acceleration which is so vital for defensive linemen is where you get a real sense of Donald’s burst. His 10-yard split was 1.59 seconds, a hair behind Clowney’s 1.56, for a guy carrying an extra 25 pounds.

That is going to earn Donald a lot of comparisons to players such as Bengals All-Pro Geno Atkins, and guarantee that unlike Atkins, he won’t have to wait until the fourth round.

 

[dbair1967]

No way he's there at 16 now...

@WillBrinson: Aaron Donald (285 lbs) goes 4.65 on first unofficial 40

He could still be there. He isn't a fit for every team.

 

[Midswat]

My sources (boozeman and carphalen) suggest Chicago and Giants would want him. Plus teams behind us that would consider trading up.

 

[Midswat]

@JoshNorris Jackson Jeffcoat first "unofficial" forty: 4.60. 10 yd of 1.60

@JoshNorris Timmy Jernigan first "unofficial" forty: 5.09. 10 yd of 1.72

@JoshNorris DaQuan Jones first "unofficial" forty: 5.28. 10 yd of 1.81

@JoshNorris Demarcus Lawrence first "unofficial" forty: 4.72. 10 yd of 1.63

 

[dbair1967]

My sources (boozeman and carphalen) suggest Chicago and Giants would want him. Plus teams behind us that would consider trading up.

They might, although the Giants have plenty of other holes too.

And you never know, if Marinelli becomes 100% sold on the guy being a big time difference maker for us, perhaps we move up a few spots to make sure we get him.

 

[Midswat]

@JC1053·3m
Updated list of guys to watch with 'Boys pick at 16: Aaron Donald, Calvin Pryor, Zack Martin, CJ Mosely. Jerry's gonna love Donald combine

 

[bbgun]

Is Donald slipping away from us?