obviously a very low football IQ, does some of the dumbest things during the course of a game.
Whenever I see him interviewed, he always speaks intelligently and thoughtfully, unlike most football players who can barely string a coherent sentence together. Comes across as very likeable as well. Which makes it all the more baffling and frustrating when he does some dumb shit during every game.obviously a very low football IQ, does some of the dumbest things during the course of a game.
No, they were stupid. Dumb players do dumb things. On the punt, we had NO RUSH called. That means we let them punt it away if the play is going off without issues.Is he an idiot? Has he done some stupid things on the field and in life? Probably.
In his defense on the field, those mistakes were aggressive mistakes. He was at least trying to make a play.
D,I'm not buying it. But where in the article did it say anything about bipolar?
I hear you MI. But I'm not buying the whole depression and anxiety thing either. That can describe me and just about any normal citizen on any given day trying to figure out how to make ends meet, get the kids through school and make the house payments.D,
Yep, my bad, it doesn't, but it did say that was he diagnosed with depression, anxiety and panic attacks. Kinda the same.... He has mental issues that's for sure, and I hope he keeps it under control with his treatment plan that he is on, I guess my view is influenced by the fact that I have a friend that has REAL mental issues and I see his struggles.....
1. No, it's not the same as Dez. "Passion" meant running your mouth and throwing a temper tantrum. With Gregory it means hitting somebody. Was it a stupid play? Yes. Do stupid plays add up? Yes. But the guy's playing football out there. But yes, admittedly you do have to play smart, too.No, they were stupid. Dumb players do dumb things. On the punt, we had NO RUSH called. That means we let them punt it away if the play is going off without issues.
"Aggressive mistakes" sounds exactly like the apologist idiocy on Dez, "we love his passion." It wasn't "passion" it was stupidity from a dumb player not intelligent enough to control himself.
On the neutral zone infraction? YES it sure as hell was a good call and valid by the way - he had been playing that little game all night, seeing how many times he could get away with it. Re-watch the game and watch him. Playing little games with the opponent and the officials instead of just fucking lining up right and playing football. Dumb, and again, hurt the team.
His whole M.O. is to be passive-aggressive not aggressive. Same reason he didn't knock off the dope after a knowledgeable person told him when he would need to do it in order to pass the piss test at the combine. (From the article linked.) He and a dope smoking buddy were told this at the same time. The buddy dropped it when he was advised, Gregory had to keep toking for three more days. The buddy passed, he didn't. He lost millions, he's STUPID.
By the way being "around the quarterback" means shit, it's like DBs who are "around" when the catch is made. Little more than a high paid spectator with a great view.
His head WAS in the neutral zone. Do you understand the NZ? And he was doing it off and on all night, playing a little game with them instead of football. They finally watched for it, and caught him. Magically, he stopped doing it.2. No. That off-sides was a crap call.
No, that's actually making a play. That's a Hit/Knockdown. "Being around" means just that, being nearby when he makes his throw. Having a great vantage point for a professional spectator.It means knocking him down on occasion letting him know you're coming.
I wasn't saying they mean the exact same things. It's the exact same excuse-making. You said his mistakes were "aggressive mistakes" and I showed how no, they're not. You're doing the same thing defending Gregory that Ginger did defending Dez.No, it's not the same as Dez. "Passion" meant running your mouth and throwing a temper tantrum
"Availability is the best ability." -- Parcells.I think you get what you can from him but you don't count on his availability.
I respectfully disagree, in poker, one can play so passively that the only way to win is to show down the best hand. This player is almost always guaranteed to be a net loser in the long run.It's not my meter. I contend there are no "aggressive mistakes" only dumb plays by dumb players.
So... I think you might have missed something. Dustdevil was calling Gregory's roughing of the punter call, a "mistake of aggression." That's the same type of excuse making Ginger always did for Dez, calling his fits and tirades "passion'I respectfully disagree
gotchaSo... I think you might have missed something. Dustdevil was calling Gregory's roughing of the punter call, a "mistake of aggression." That's the same type of excuse making Ginger always did for Dez, calling his fits and tirades "passion'
Wiping out the punter is stupidity, not aggression.
Everything else in your post, definitely understand and agree. The METER was, as an excuse for plain ole stupidity.
its sounded as if you felt it applied to all players in all situations, thus my response (error and mistake have the same meaning to me)I contend there are no "aggressive mistakes" only dumb plays by dumb players.
I misunderheard you, really is all it is. My only objection to use of the term is when it is used as a broad brush to include simply stupid play. And I'll go even a little bit further and say dumb play isn't even a mistake aggressive or other, it's the nature of the dumb player.gotcha
I misunderstood what you were trying to say because when I asked if you saw a difference between "Aggressive mistakes" and "errors of aggression", you said:
its sounded as if you felt it applied to all players in all situations, thus my response (error and mistake have the same meaning to me)
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