JBond

UDFA
Rubio and Cruz are as worthless as any other republican or democrat. Cruz is like 20% less worthless, but still.

No more politicians.

This! Gentleman, you know I follow politics and was banned for a pic of an abortion. Right now on 8/17/2015 I appreciate the anti pc tilt of some people. Hildabeast will be a disaster, but crazy uncle bernie would be far worse based on the failures of Obama and the other silly little socialists. Asinine policies that promise the base free items including housing, medical care, are alive and well.

Next up from crazy bernie... make everyone equal.

Where the hell are the parents?

Sigh.. Some run away. Some choose the acid option
 

Hoofbite

Draft Pick
Was on a long road trip and listening to talk radio shit.

Guess they had some soundbites of Trump from just the other day. Still talking about how he'd build the wall and how he'd make Mexico pay for it.

He certainly says some shit that I can agree with and the sound clips I heard from his discussion on planned parenthood piss on just about anyone else from the republican party. Not that I even think the planned parenthood issue is worth the attention it gets. Honestly, this is a priority of yours when running for president? Okay, well I guess you've made the decision for most rational people that much easier. You're wasting everyone's fucking time by focusing on something other than what matters and is important.

That said, I can't take anyone seriously who believes that constructing a wall would actually be effective. It's over 1,000 miles from Mexico City to the the US border. These people risk it all to cross that distance (and sometimes more), and you think a fucking wall will discourage them? They already overcome a bigger obstacle than the wall could ever be, and yet you still think a wall would keep people out. It's quite possibly the single dumbest idea I've ever heard.
 

Doomsday

High Plains Drifter
Happy to bet with you on it. She isn't going to be the President
The likelihood of her croaking from her multiple (secret) health issues alone makes this a wash, how about a bet that if she survives and is in (apparent) good health, she will be the D nominee and WILL win the General?
That said, I can't take anyone seriously who believes that constructing a wall would actually be effective.
I don't think we're supposed to take him seriously. I think his whole point of existence is to stir the pot as only he can. I'm all for his presence in the campaign, can you imagine the endless ho-hum from this group of mostly zero charisma, political correctness slaves if Trump wasn't around at all?

He'll knock it off and quit around the time people really start thinking about the race.
 

Sheik

All-Pro
I'll believe Trump goes away when he drops below 20%.

If these stupid asses keep up their soft stances, he'll wipe his ass with them. People are tired of nothing being done on both sides.
 
Was on a long road trip and listening to talk radio shit.

Guess they had some soundbites of Trump from just the other day. Still talking about how he'd build the wall and how he'd make Mexico pay for it.

He certainly says some shit that I can agree with and the sound clips I heard from his discussion on planned parenthood piss on just about anyone else from the republican party. Not that I even think the planned parenthood issue is worth the attention it gets. Honestly, this is a priority of yours when running for president? Okay, well I guess you've made the decision for most rational people that much easier. You're wasting everyone's fucking time by focusing on something other than what matters and is important.

That said, I can't take anyone seriously who believes that constructing a wall would actually be effective. It's over 1,000 miles from Mexico City to the the US border. These people risk it all to cross that distance (and sometimes more), and you think a fucking wall will discourage them? They already overcome a bigger obstacle than the wall could ever be, and yet you still think a wall would keep people out. It's quite possibly the single dumbest idea I've ever heard.
He's really a side show circus. He says some things that make sense, but I sort of think he only says them to be anti-establishment and play to that sentiment from the general public. I don't think he'd be any different than any other president in that regard.

The wall is a cartoonish idea. His statements on women are just vile, and I don't think he'll get support from moderates in a general election.

Like, he says such stupid shit sometimes, in a race between him and Bernie, I would probably either vote Bernie or not vote/third party.
 
So Obama has given the green light for the FBI and Atty Gen to investigate Clinton on the Email controversy.

Interesting.
 

Sheik

All-Pro
If it came down to Trump v Sanders, I think you'd get a very low turnout overall and Trump would win.

If Hillary bounces back from this email stuff(I don't think much will come of it), I think she'll be a tough beat. Especially if Trump was the Nom.

I still think Hillary v Bush is highly likely.

I stay home.
 

dbair1967

Administrator
The likelihood of her croaking from her multiple (secret) health issues alone makes this a wash, how about a bet that if she survives and is in (apparent) good health, she will be the D nominee and WILL win the General?

I don't even think she's gonna be the nominee, let alone is she going to win the whole thing.

She's a trainwreck for the dems and I am sure the smart ones (the few that actually exist) already know they are toast if she stays in.
 

dbair1967

Administrator
If it came down to Trump v Sanders, I think you'd get a very low turnout overall and Trump would win.

If Hillary bounces back from this email stuff(I don't think much will come of it), I think she'll be a tough beat. Especially if Trump was the Nom.

I still think Hillary v Bush is highly likely.

I stay home.

I bet neither of them win their primary.

Bush is gonna get trampled, once the email thing heats up more Hildabeast might have to pull out altogether.
 
According to some political experts (whatever) on Sean hannity this afternoon, Hillary is not popular at all amongst most dems and they'll likely try and seperate themselves from her. They said the Obamas will likely try and prop someone up to be the nominee, but not Hillary or Bernie. Also not Biden because he's too much of a "bozo."
 

Doomsday

High Plains Drifter
I don't even think she's gonna be the nominee, let alone is she going to win the whole thing.

She's a trainwreck for the dems and I am sure the smart ones (the few that actually exist) already know they are toast if she stays in.
So, how much we betting? Real money or vCash. The bet as I see it is, IF Hitlery's health stays apparently good she will be the Dem nominee and will win the General and be your next president.
 

Hoofbite

Draft Pick
If she pulls out of the race, Sanders will easily get the nomination. He's already cut the gap between himself and Clinton by half. I think he could get the nomination outright even if she stays in.

How that would play out could be interesting.
 

Hoofbite

Draft Pick
If it came down to Trump v Sanders, I think you'd get a very low turnout overall and Trump would win.

If Hillary bounces back from this email stuff(I don't think much will come of it), I think she'll be a tough beat. Especially if Trump was the Nom.

I still think Hillary v Bush is highly likely.

I stay home.

I think just the opposite. I think Trump stands a better chance against Hillary. The bulk of Hillary support is basically just party affiliation, whereas it seems the bulk of Bernie's support is from people who may (or may not, who knows. Just my take) look beyond voting solely for party as some sort of duty. Not necessarily that they aren't solidly in the democratic camp, but that they may be democrats who would potentially not vote if the candidate was shit.

I think Bernie has much greater appeal to the apathetic portion of the democratic voters than Hillary does, which means he would probably pull a greater turnout.

He would ultimately still going to get the hard party line tool bags that currently comprise most of Hillary's support, but if he gets the nomination he would have undoubtedly rallied enough support from the portion that would have most likely otherwise stayed home to beat Hillary in the first place. The combination of blind following and appeal to the apathetic portion makes him a stronger opponent.
 

dbair1967

Administrator
So, how much we betting? Real money or vCash. The bet as I see it is, IF Hitlery's health stays apparently good she will be the Dem nominee and will win the General and be your next president.

I'm leaving the forum if she wins the election
 

dbair1967

Administrator
I think just the opposite. I think Trump stands a better chance against Hillary. The bulk of Hillary support is basically just party affiliation, whereas it seems the bulk of Bernie's support is from people who may (or may not, who knows. Just my take) look beyond voting solely for party as some sort of duty. Not necessarily that they aren't solidly in the democratic camp, but that they may be democrats who would potentially not vote if the candidate was shit.

I think Bernie has much greater appeal to the apathetic portion of the democratic voters than Hillary does, which means he would probably pull a greater turnout.

He would ultimately still going to get the hard party line tool bags that currently comprise most of Hillary's support, but if he gets the nomination he would have undoubtedly rallied enough support from the portion that would have most likely otherwise stayed home to beat Hillary in the first place. The combination of blind following and appeal to the apathetic portion makes him a stronger opponent.

If Sanders wins the nomination its gonna be 1988 again for the dems. Guaranteed.

He'd lost to probably any Republican nominee in my opinion.
 
Anyone who is the first to promise cattle cars for the Mexican invaders will win, while the MSM, DNC and the E-GOP traitors will all wring their hands and cry about how terribly, terribly distraught they are that their grand plan of selling the whole country down the river has been thwarted by the knuckle-draggers.
 
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