Really? Does this sell product?

[Theebs]

If the entire Jones family was stricken with leprosy and had to sell the team tomorrow, we could also play with anyone.

I dont think there is really a question at this point that having a real gm who has power and then empowers the Head coach would be great....

but having said that as long as we have romo on one side and ware on the other we have a chance to beat anyone...

 

[UVAwahoos]

Philips wouldn't have gotten fired if he was part of the solution here. So that was a waste of 3 seasons, bc most knew he would fail right from the get-go. How does that not anger a season ticket holder?

Garrett was assistant head coach and in charge of 50% of the team at the time too. He somehow got absolved of all blame, and got promoted during that whole mess. Last season was another throw-away season where you can blame at least 2 losses on poor coaching. So that's basically 5 seasons just down the drain with poor coaching as a huge factor. Plus, how can a coach with zero experience be expected to develop young players and install productive and tested schemes? This team did not need a project head coach.

I'm willing to forgive players for blunders, but coaches have zero excuse in this day and age for being directly responsible for losses. There's just too much technology and too many assistants to have the blunders that Garrett had last season. Especially when there are other experienced and very capable coaches available. Harbaugh in SF is a prime example of a what a solid coach can do for a shitty franchise.

Nick Saban was a shitty NFL coach for about 1 season. Not sure why anything more than shit is expected from his coaching tree.

 

[bbgun]

im not declaring peoples motivates I dont think...

just simply saying garrett drove me nuts last year...that new england, philly and final ny game along with the arizona game just made me cringe......nothing enjoyable about it.

But now the only thing I can do is hope garrett who struggled has improved and received the help he needed on the staff and that the team is better.

how could you be right or wrong the last 16 years? I dont understand that at all.....I couldnt stand jerry from day 1 but I had no idea what was going to happen in any year he has been here.

the campo years we all knew we were going to lose, once romo took over there is no reason to expect this team to lose.

Whatever is keeping them from getting over the hump when they get in position I dont know anymore and I dont think anyone does but I dont expect them to lose based on the odd past 16 years...

Floating the idea that someone wants the team to lose is one of the worst things to insinuate about another fan. It's right up there with telling them to "follow another team." No one enjoys being right about all the misery Jones has unleashed for almost two decades. Proving the blinkered homers wrong year after year is the only thing that comes close to satisfaction, mainly because they bring it upon themselves with their obnoxious "my team right or wrong" chest-thumping.

I'll give you some leeway on the "16 years" thing. It's only in the last ten years or so that I realized that JJ was the main impediment to success, and that we'll never win another championship so long as he's calling the shots--Garrett, Ware and Romo notwithstanding.

 

[Iamtdg]

I dont think there is really a question at this point that having a real gm who has power and then empowers the Head coach would be great....

but having said that as long as we have romo on one side and ware on the other we have a chance to beat anyone...

The point is, 2 players don't make a team.

And the people (Jones) running the team have no freakin' clue how to build said team.

 

[Iamtdg]

Floating the idea that someone wants the team to lose is one of the worst things to insinuate about another fan. It's right up there with telling them to "follow another team." No one enjoys being right about all the misery Jones has unleashed for almost two decades. Proving the blinkered homers wrong year after year is the only thing that comes close to satisfaction, mainly because they bring it upon themselves with their obnoxious "my team right or wrong" chest-thumping.

I'll give you some leeway on the "16 years" thing. It's only in the last ten years or so that I realized that JJ was the main impediment to success, and that we'll never win another championship so long as he's calling the shots--Garrett, Ware and Romo notwithstanding.

31 other teams.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

theebs may have to think about looking into 31 other forums after that smackdown bbgun just laid on him.

 

[Theebs]

Philips wouldn't have gotten fired if he was part of the solution here. So that was a waste of 3 seasons, bc most knew he would fail right from the get-go. How does that not anger a season ticket holder?

Garrett was assistant head coach and in charge of 50% of the team at the time too. He somehow got absolved of all blame, and got promoted during that whole mess. Last season was another throw-away season where you can blame at least 2 losses on poor coaching. So that's basically 5 seasons just down the drain with poor coaching as a huge factor. Plus, how can a coach with zero experience be expected to develop young players and install productive and tested schemes? This team did not need a project head coach.

I'm willing to forgive players for blunders, but coaches have zero excuse in this day and age for being directly responsible for losses. There's just too much technology and too many assistants to have the blunders that Garrett had last season. Especially when there are other experienced and very capable coaches available. Harbaugh in SF is a prime example of a what a solid coach can do for a shitty franchise.

Nick Saban was a shitty NFL coach for about 1 season. Not sure why anything more than shit is expected from his coaching tree.

nick saban doesnt have an nfl coaching tree he is part of belichicks. No idea why you think he does.

btw saban spent 4 years as belichick's Defensive Coordinator in cleveland
and tom coughlin caused alot of problems in ny and they all thought he was terrible in 05 and 06....especially after getting destroyed by carolina......

and no I dont think garrett is on the level of coughlin.....just how quickly perceptions can change and do.

bill cowher caught alot of shit for years too....

my beef is I dont want his young learning years to ruin and waste romo and ware's final years.....I hope he doesnt and i hope he has a great year......

 

[bbgun]

theebs may have to think about looking into 31 other forums after that smackdown bbgun just laid on him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

nick saban doesnt have an nfl coaching tree he is part of belichicks. No idea why you think he does.

btw saban spent 4 years as belichick's Defensive Coordinator in cleveland
and tom coughlin caused alot of problems in ny and they all thought he was terrible in 05 and 06....especially after getting destroyed by carolina......

and no I dont think garrett is on the level of coughlin.....just how quickly perceptions can change and do.

bill cowher caught alot of shit for years too....

my beef is I dont want his young learning years to ruin and waste romo and ware's final years.....I hope he doesnt and i hope he has a great year......

Coughlin had some skins on the wall after coaching the Jaguars though.

Right now all JG is is a neophyte coach and noone knows if he's beyond that at this point.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

lol theebs is on the mat! Tag him out of the ring, dbair!

 

[Theebs]

Floating the idea that someone wants the team to lose is one of the worst things to insinuate about another fan. It's right up there with telling them to "follow another team." No one enjoys being right about all the misery Jones has unleashed for almost two decades. Proving the blinkered homers wrong year after year is the only thing that comes close to satisfaction, mainly because they bring it upon themselves with their obnoxious "my team right or wrong" chest-thumping.

I'll give you some leeway on the "16 years" thing. It's only in the last ten years or so that I realized that JJ was the main impediment to success, and that we'll never win another championship so long as he's calling the shots--Garrett, Ware and Romo notwithstanding.

I understand all of that, but those posters have openly said I almost want the team to lose just to see guys like hostile who love garrett so much have to admit they are wrong....

that is why I said it.....

I can bitch about stuff with the best of them, but my viewpoint is not negative and not that this team and the staff cant get better.

there was a lot to bitch about last year unfortunately, hopefully this year there wont be.

 

[Theebs]

Coughlin had some skins on the wall after coaching the Jaguars though.

yes, he had a couple of tremendous wins, at buffalo and at denver in 96 were huge.

but in the end he took the bullett.........just like he almost did in ny.

 

[Theebs]

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if the moment hits me again I will make more of those, they were fun and that was a good team.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/index.php <=theebs

 

[Theebs]

hey bob, Im not retarded enough to get banned from an internet message board....so....

 

[UVAwahoos]

nick saban doesnt have an nfl coaching tree he is part of belichicks. No idea why you think he does.

btw saban spent 4 years as belichick's Defensive Coordinator in cleveland
and tom coughlin caused alot of problems in ny and they all thought he was terrible in 05 and 06....especially after getting destroyed by carolina......

and no I dont think garrett is on the level of coughlin.....just how quickly perceptions can change and do.

bill cowher caught alot of shit for years too....

my beef is I dont want his young learning years to ruin and waste romo and ware's final years.....I hope he doesnt and i hope he has a great year......

Already wasted 5 years, buddy.

And it's very fitting that you don't recall Saban's last tenure. Speaks volumes about a lot of the issues with Ginger.

 

[bbgun]

if the moment hits me again I will make more of those, they were fun and that was a good team.

More what? Slogans? "Believe" died in the Metrodome. Let it rest in peace.

 

[Theebs]

Already wasted 5 years, buddy.

And it's very fitting that you don't recall Saban's last tenure. Speaks volumes about a lot of the issues with Ginger.

why do i have to remember sabans tenure? What does that even mean.....he blew it in miami, just like every coach has since don shula left.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make concerning garrett-saban and the dolphins?

 

[Theebs]

More what? Slogans? "Believe" died in the Metrodome. Let it rest in peace.

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well believe is dead for sure....

I wont do the believe deal ever again, but just some sort of fun game buildup video... i like doing it, its fun and helps pass the time till the game.

 

[bbgun]

well believe is dead for sure....

I wont do the believe deal ever again, but just some sort of fun game buildup video... i like doing it, its fun and helps pass the time till the game.

Oh, I don't know about that. I think a lot of Zoners still use it in their sigs and under their screen names. I hope you can live with that.