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Well it looks like Carson Wentz will be coming to my home team the Rams! They gave up way to much to move up 14 spots. Here is what they gave up


Tennessee will send the top selection along with its fourth- (No. 113) and sixth-round (No. 177) picks this year to the Rams in exchange for Los Angeles' first-round pick (No. 15), two second-round selections (Nos. 43 and 45) and a third-round pick (No. 76) in 2016. The Titans also will get the Rams' first- and third-round pic

Way too steep of a price in my opinion! But at least the Rams will end up with their franchise QB of the future.



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So did the Rams give up the farm for Goff or Wentz?

If it was for Goff, and Cleveland takes Wentz, then Chargers take Ramsey, do the Cowboys draft Tunsil? He would be the best player available at 4.
 

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I believe they take Wentz and Cleveland takes Goff

This trade makes things more interesting for us

We either get a better defensive player than we would have and totally miss out on a QB unless we take Lynch at 34 if he is still there or we forget a QB totally like Jerry has said which I think will be a mistake.

Who knows maybe we get lucky on a later round flyer on a QB


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I believe they take Wentz and Cleveland takes Goff

This trade makes things more interesting for us

We either get a better defensive player than we would have and totally miss out on a QB unless we take Lynch at 34 if he is still there or we forget a QB totally like Jerry has said which I think will be a mistake.

Who knows maybe we get lucky on a later round flyer on a QB

Almost no way Lynch is available at 34.

We've been trying the "get lucky" approach at QB since Aikman retired. It worked once.
 

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:lol

Poor Cleveland. Fucked in the ass again (assuming Goff isn't their kinda guy). And we're fucked too if QBs go 1-2, because it eliminates Tony's (future) replacement and leaves only players that no one will overpay for in a possible trade.
 

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Good trade for both teams. LA desparetly needs their franchise QB and Titans need the picks.

Love how the Eagles 2nd rounder was used to essentially fuck them out of a top QB.

I still want Jack at 4 but would gladly settle with Ramsey.
 

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So now it's just a matter of who the Chargers will pick

They probably take Tunsil and that leaves Ramsey still there for us at #4


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Has to be a move for Wentz. Which I hope works out for them. With that defense and that run game, a good rookie with solid QB play could be like the Roethlisberger steelers of 2004.
 

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Has to be a move for Wentz.

They're allowed to start negotiating with whomever they want. The NFL better not tell them to hold off in order to generate artificial suspense on draft day.
 

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So now it's just a matter of who the Chargers will pick

They probably take Tunsil and that leaves Ramsey still there for us at #4


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That's definitely a possibility. I've been hearing though that they feel the biggest loss for them this past year was losing Weddle on defense. Ramsey would be an upgrade over Weddle.

Also heard that if Tunsil is still there at 4 there is a chance the Titans could want to move back up to take him. They would have to give the Cowboys the two 2nd rounders they got from the Rams.
 

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I doubt the Rams do this trade were they still in St. Louis. I guess they needed some sizzle in LA.
 

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I doubt the Rams do this trade were they still in St. Louis. I guess they needed some sizzle in LA.

It helps that the rest of their team is stacked and all they're missing is a good QB. Well stacked everywhere except QB and WR.
 
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Rams trade up to acquire No. 1 pick from Titans

Rams trade up to acquire No. 1 pick from Titans
By Conor Orr NFL.com
Around The NFL Writer
Published: April 14, 2016 at 09:05 a.m.
Updated: April 14, 2016 at 03:32 p.m.

In a stunning move that shakes up the top of the draft and almost ensures that the Rams will be starting a rookie quarterback in 2016, the Tennessee Titans traded the No. 1 pick in the 2016 NFL Draft to the Los Angeles Rams, both teams announced Thursday morning.

The Rams, previously selecting at No. 15, are the lowest-picking team in NFL history to trade up to the No. 1 spot. The move, however, did not come cheap.

It is essentially the Rams' karmic payback for fleecing the Redskins back in 2012 for a treasure trove of picks that led to the selection of Robert Griffin III. The terms are as follows: Tennessee gets: Rams' first-round pick (2016), two second-round picks (2016), a third-round pick (2016), a first-round pick (2017) and another third-round pick (2017).

The acquisition has to be seen as a coup for new Titans general manager Jon Robinson. Already equipped with his quarterback of the future -- Marcus Mariota -- there were needs across the board that can now be addressed immediately. This year's draft has been viewed as one of the deepest for certain positions in half a decade, and the Titans now have the chance to fill several holes instead of one.

The Rams, on the other hand, are taking a gigantic risk. Prepping for the first season in Los Angeles, the team wanted to arrive on scene with a new face of the franchise. It is almost a guarantee that the Rams will end up with either Carson Wentz or Jared Goff. NFL Media's Albert Breer reported the Rams already have conducted on-campus workouts with both quarterbacks. They likely made the move fearing that the quarterback-needy Browns would take their preferred choice at No. 2.

"It is not often that you have the number one overall pick and we hope to not be in this position again, but we tried to use that pick as currency to work the draft and maximize player acquisition," Robinson said in a statement. "Being able to acquire six picks in the top 76 this year and additional picks next year, not only helps our depth but gives us ammunition to move in this year's draft and next. I know we now have the number 15 pick, but I would say it doesn't knock us out of any player except one. We now have the ammunition to work the draft and acquire players that are good for this football team. In terms of timing, it made sense for us to do this now as it gives us time to adjust and make sure we target more players."

This is the seventh time since 1990 that the No. 1 pick has been traded. The last? In 2004, when the Chargers dealt Eli Manning to the Giants.

This is also the most lucrative draft deal since the 2012 RGIII trade, which netted the Rams a bedrock of franchise players.

The Rams have now truly engrained themselves in Hollywood -- so it goes with an aggressive owner in a new market with a team that has not had a winning record since 2003 or a playoff appearance since 2004. The team is also participating in HBO's training camp series, Hard Knocks, this August in an effort to drum up interest and acquire new fans in Los Angeles.

The last time the Rams attempted to select a quarterback with the No. 1 overall pick, they ended up with Sam Bradford. At the time, Bradford was viewed as a can't-miss prospect and one of the cleanest quarterbacks to hit the draft since John Elway. Bradford finished his tenure in St. Louis with an 18-30-1 record, a 58.6 completion percentage, 11,065 passing yards, 59 touchdowns and 38 interceptions.

Along with Bradford, the Rams have also started Nick Foles, Case Keenum, Austin Davis, Shaun Hill, Kellen Clemens and A.J. Feeley in that timespan.

The deal creates plenty of questions moving forward and shatters just about every mock draft in progress. Among the most interesting storylines:

» What does this mean for the Browns? There was a sense that Cleveland was also interested in one of the top two quarterback prospects. New head coach Hue Jackson and offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton were a heavy presence at both pro day workouts. The Browns, oddly enough, signed Robert Griffin III this offseason just in case. Also, new Browns executive Sashi Brown said there was significant interest in the No. 2 pick. Did the Rams try them first? After this trade, is there any interest remaining?

» Are the Chargers, Cowboys, Jaguars and Ravens celebrating right now? If the Browns also select a quarterback atop the draft, there is a chance that some excellent positional players slip down into the top 10 in a trickledown effect that could net these teams some players of desperate need.

» Are we underestimating the Titans moving forward? Tennessee just struck gold, but as we saw from the Rams-Redskins trade in 2012, there is still a chance to miss on a bevy of high picks. Still, Robinson gets the No. 15 overall selection in this year's draft and, at the moment, two first-round picks in next year's draft. He has three second-round picks and two thirds this year, too.

"We wanted to maximize the value of the pick for a long time, I've talked about that for a long time," Robinson said. "To be able to take that pick and use it for what we thought was the best decision for the football team and to acquire that many players and give us the ammunition to move up and down in the draft I would say it doesn't knock us out of moving back up in the first round. Obviously knocks us out of one player but only one player."

Robinson said discussions for the No. 1 pick began at the NFL Scouting Combine but "heated up" over the last several weeks. It seems like he finally got an offer he couldn't refuse.
 
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Just hours after the Los Angeles Times reported that Carson Wentz was the Rams presumptive pick with the top overall pick in the NFL Draft, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports they are leaning toward making Cal quarterback Jared Goff the top overall pick after acquiring the selection Thursday from the Tennessee Titans, but a team source added that the team would also consider North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz before they have to make the pick on April 28.

The source said that one reason the Rams made this deal now was to give the team "two weeks to debate between Goff and Wentz. You can make a convincing case for both. Both are going to be good."

Tennessee sent the top selection, along with its fourth- (No. 113) and sixth-round (No. 177) picks this year, to the Rams in a blockbuster trade in exchange for Los Angeles' first-round pick (No. 15), two second-round selections (Nos. 43 and 45) and a third-round pick (No. 76) in 2016. The Titans will also get the Rams' first- and third-round picks in 2017.

Sources told ESPN that the trade was agreed to Wednesday night, but the Rams didn't want to steal any thunder from Kobe Bryant's final game. It was decided the Titans would announce the deal at 9 a.m. ET Thursday.
 

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Yeah saw the report that now says they are leaning Goff, but did this trade now so they could debate internally which one of the two QB's they really do want for two whole weeks.
 
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