New 9/11 and other conspiracy rabbit holes

[yimyammer]

 

[cml750]

I watched a few minutes of that and will watch the rest later today after work. Is the premise of this the FBI stopped a hijacked plane? If so that is hilarious since out government orchestrated the entire thing. Is the FBI that incompetent or just compartmentalized to the point that these particular agents were not let in on the big plans?

 

[Doomsday]

I watched a few minutes of that and will watch the rest later today after work. Is the premise of this the FBI stopped a hijacked plane? If so that is hilarious since out government orchestrated the entire thing. Is the FBI that incompetent or just compartmentalized to the point that these particular agents were not let in on the big plans?

I just gotta ask... They kept Dubya in the dark or nah? Also - did they pay off the masterminds of the deed to admit their role when under enhanced interrogation? And were the investigators and interrogators all in on it too?

Finally, with literally millions in on it - how the hell have they kept the lid on without so much as one stray cat howling around? Fuckin amazing.

 

[cml750]

I just gotta ask... They kept Dubya in the dark or nah? Also - did they pay off the masterminds of the deed to admit their role when under enhanced interrogation? And were the investigators and interrogators all in on it too?

Finally, with literally millions in on it - how the hell have they kept the lid on without so much as one stray cat howling around? Fuckin amazing.

Yea fucktard "Dubya" was in on it. He was a sorry POS along with all the other Bushes. It is probably not hard to keep quiet when you know your life depends on it. Anyone who talked would be killed or destroyed. My first clue to the whole thing being planned by us was when I found out we had a "drill" going on that day specifically for planes being hijacked and flown into buildings. It slowed the response for the people not in on it. I than found out about the other tower that came down that day, Building 7 while researching everything. I suggest you do a deep dive on building 7.

You can be naive if you like but these same groups took our JFK in the 60's. Also, look at all the bullshit they have done to Trump.

 

[Doomsday]

Yea fucktard "Dubya" was in on it. He was a sorry POS along with all the other Bushes. It is probably not hard to keep quiet when you know your life depends on it. Anyone who talked would be killed or destroyed. My first clue to the whole thing being planned by us was when I found out we had a "drill" going on that day specifically for planes being hijacked and flown into buildings. It slowed the response for the people not in on it. I than found out about the other tower that came down that day, Building 7 while researching everything. I suggest you do a deep dive on building 7.

You can be naive if you like but these same groups took our JFK in the 60's. Also, look at all the bullshit they have done to Trump.

Yeah, I gave troofers the time of the day 20 years ago. It's just abject silliness anymore. It's exactly like trying to reason with a climate change nut or a gender denier. But it's amusing to find a specimen in the wild occasionally.

Read this then tell me Mitchell and others in the investigation were in on it.


For some reason there are people who simply won't allow the possibility of Islamic Jihad planning and accomplishing exactly what they did.

Kennedy? Forensically it's been proven beyond scientific doubt the rounds were fired by Oswald and Oswald only, from only one location. And the missing bullet was positively identified too. There's nothing there.

Oh hey - I'd rather be "naive" than paranoid and irrational.

 

[yimyammer]

I just gotta ask... They kept Dubya in the dark or nah? Also - did they pay off the masterminds of the deed to admit their role when under enhanced interrogation? And were the investigators and interrogators all in on it too?

Finally, with literally millions in on it - how the hell have they kept the lid on without so much as one stray cat howling around? Fuckin amazing.

The incompetence of the DMV alone makes it next to impossible for me to believe 911 was an inside job

 

[yimyammer]

I watched a few minutes of that and will watch the rest later today after work. Is the premise of this the FBI stopped a hijacked plane? If so that is hilarious since out government orchestrated the entire thing. Is the FBI that incompetent or just compartmentalized to the point that these particular agents were not let in on the big plans?

no the FBI didnt stop anything, the plane just wasnt able to get off the ground before the first plane hit the WTC and once people realized what was happening that day, all the suspicious stuff and people on that flight appear to strongly indicate this could have been the 5th plane

they mention 4 or 5 people in first class that were suspicious as hell include one person in a full hijab who the flight attendants suspected was a man, I'd like to know who those people were and where did they go

 

[Doomsday]

no the FBI didnt stop anything, the plane just wasnt able to get off the ground before the first plane hit the WTC and once people realized what was happening that day, all the suspicious stuff and people on that flight appear to strongly indicate this could have been the 5th plane

they mention 4 or 5 people in first class that were suspicious as hell include one person in a full hijab who the flight attendants suspected was a man, I'd like to know who those people were and where did they go

Is this the flight some actor was telling Fallon he was on, that once he saw what was going on he called the FBI?

 

[yimyammer]

Is this the flight some actor was telling Fallon he was on, that once he saw what was going on he called the FBI?

No, I believe that was James Woods who said he was on a flight with people he was suspicious of and thinks they were doing a trial run. After 911, he identified the people he saw on that flight as some of the actual hijackers

 

[Doomsday]

No, I believe that was James Woods who said he was on a flight with people he was suspicious of and thinks they were doing a trial run. After 911, he identified the people he saw on that flight as some of the actual hijackers

Thaaaat's right. He seemed very credible too. August 1st dry run is spooky.

 

[yimyammer]

There are a few head scratchers like fully in tact passport of one (or more) of the hijackers being found on the streets of NYC

Responders found the hijackers’ notes and passports and a knife that investigators believe one of the hijackers used. They also recovered the plane’s black boxes—the flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder.

 

[yimyammer]

I had a strange encounter before 911 riding a van back from DFW in Dallas. It was a big van where multiple people shared the cost and got dropped off at various places along the route. So it was cheaper but took longer. I was right behind the front seat in the middle and put my foot on what looked to be a box in between the 2 front seats (it may have been a cooler). The driver was a short, slight middle eastern man with a constant scowl on his face and chewed me out for putting my foot on his "lunch". I immediately apologized and removed my foot but he wouldn't let it go and kept mumbling about Americans, etc, etc to the point where everyone in the van was looking at each with that WTF look on their face.

I tried to calm him down by saying sorry man, I had no idea, lets drop it but he wouldn't and he kept ranting, not about my foot on his lunch but about America & Americans in general so by the time we got to a stop to let one off the other passengers off, I said look buddy I apologized twice and that wasn't good enough so I'm getting off here, not paying you jack shit and you can fuck right off! I was ready to fight him at this point but he sheepishly walked away when we were standing outside face to face.

Everyone in the van loved it.

I caught a cab for the rest of the way home.

The oddness and irrational and seemingly misplaced anger stuck with me for years and when 911 happened, I immediately thought of this guy trying to recall what he looked like to compare him to the 19 hijackers but couldn't find any connections to Dallas or a mugshot of any of them that jived with my memory so it was probably much ado about nothing but the irrational hate has stuck with me to this day, something was off with that dude one way or another.

 

[Creeper]

Yeah, I gave troofers the time of the day 20 years ago. It's just abject silliness anymore. It's exactly like trying to reason with a climate change nut or a gender denier. But it's amusing to find a specimen in the wild occasionally.

Read this then tell me Mitchell and others in the investigation were in on it.

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For some reason there are people who simply won't allow the possibility of Islamic Jihad planning and accomplishing exactly what they did.

Kennedy? Forensically it's been proven beyond scientific doubt the rounds were fired by Oswald and Oswald only, from only one location. And the missing bullet was positively identified too. There's nothing there.

Oh hey - I'd rather be "naive" than paranoid and irrational.

You know that a conspiracy is a bunch of baloney once the theorists start adjusting their theories give now facts. It is exactly like climate change where the know the end result so they fit the new facts to back up their bullshit theories.

I gave up arguing with this people when I showed them pictures of parts of the American Airlines planes in and around the Pentagon. They stuck to their missile theory despite evidence to the contrary. But During the hearings on the Pentagon plane incident the DOJ posted pictures on line taken inside the Pentagon. The pictures showed charred bodies of passengers still in their seats. From the debris it was very clear and beyond any doubt it was a plane that hit the Pentagon. But I still see people on social media arguing it was some kind of missile,

It dishonors those who died on 9/11/2001. I wish it would stop but I know it never will.

 

[Creeper]

I had a strange encounter before 911 riding a van back from DFW in Dallas. It was a big van where multiple people shared the cost and got dropped off at various places along the route. So it was cheaper but took longer. I was right behind the front seat in the middle and put my foot on what looked to be a box in between the 2 front seats (it may have been a cooler). The driver was a short, slight middle eastern man with a constant scowl on his face and chewed me out for putting my foot on his "lunch". I immediately apologized and removed my foot but he wouldn't let it go and kept mumbling about Americans, etc, etc to the point where everyone in the van was looking at each with that WTF look on their face.

I tried to calm him down by saying sorry man, I had no idea, lets drop it but he wouldn't and he kept ranting, not about my foot on his lunch but about America & Americans in general so by the time we got to a stop to let one off the other passengers off, I said look buddy I apologized twice and that wasn't good enough so I'm getting off here, not paying you jack shit and you can fuck right off! I was ready to fight him at this point but he sheepishly walked away when we were standing outside face to face.

Everyone in the van loved it.

I caught a cab for the rest of the way home.

The oddness and irrational and seemingly misplaced anger stuck with me for years and when 911 happened, I immediately thought of this guy trying to recall what he looked like to compare him to the 19 hijackers but couldn't find any connections to Dallas or a mugshot of any of them that jived with my memory so it was probably much ado about nothing but the irrational hate has stuck with me to this day, something was off with that dude one way or another.

Do you remember when Trump claimed that Muslims in America were celebrating after the 9/11 attacks? The media claimed this was false and that it never happened. Yet it did happen. It happened in my state of NJ. In fact, my best friend told ne he was late for work because he got stuck in a traffic jam caused by Muslims in Patterson NJ who were dancing in the streets celebrating after the attack. He witnessed it. I am not saying this is representative of all Muslims in America, but I do believe it represents a large majority of them.

 

[yimyammer]

Do you remember when Trump claimed that Muslims in America were celebrating after the 9/11 attacks? The media claimed this was false and that it never happened. Yet it did happen. It happened in my state of NJ. In fact, my best friend told ne he was late for work because he got stuck in a traffic jam caused by Muslims in Patterson NJ who were dancing in the streets celebrating after the attack. He witnessed it. I am not saying this is representative of all Muslims in America, but I do believe it represents a large majority of them.

I heard about it, but I could never find anything to substantiate it like video news articles, etc.. Do you have any sources other than your friend?

 

[Doomsday]

Do you remember when Trump claimed that Muslims in America were celebrating after the 9/11 attacks? The media claimed this was false and that it never happened. Yet it did happen. It happened in my state of NJ. In fact, my best friend told ne he was late for work because he got stuck in a traffic jam caused by Muslims in Patterson NJ who were dancing in the streets celebrating after the attack. He witnessed it. I am not saying this is representative of all Muslims in America, but I do believe it represents a large majority of them.

I also remember Trump claiming it was an inside job and his buddy Banion still does.

 

[dbair1967]

Do you remember when Trump claimed that Muslims in America were celebrating after the 9/11 attacks? The media claimed this was false and that it never happened. Yet it did happen. It happened in my state of NJ. In fact, my best friend told ne he was late for work because he got stuck in a traffic jam caused by Muslims in Patterson NJ who were dancing in the streets celebrating after the attack. He witnessed it. I am not saying this is representative of all Muslims in America, but I do believe it represents a large majority of them.

That definitely happened and the Mooselum that owned the cafe in our office building was one of them. I received a talking to from the HR team from my company after finally having enough of his bullshit comments and cussing the guy out. He bragged and cheered about it for days, he then reported me to building security and complained to the management of our company. Fortunately I had plenty of witnesses so nothing happened to me. I really wanted to beat his ass though.

Once the word got out in the building of what happened his business cratered. He had to sell within a couple of months because he lost his ass.

 

[Creeper]

I heard about it, but I could never find anything to substantiate it like video news articles, etc.. Do you have any sources other than your friend?

At this point no, but I remember talking on the phone with him that day and he was complaining that he was late to work because of it. This was right after it happened and before anyone was even thinking about anything other than the tragedy. There was not reason for the media to be in Patterson that day and the use of cell phones to record everything and post it on social media was not a big thin in 2001. But the way the conversation transpired and the circumstances, and knowing my friend, there is not reason to believe what he was saying, and in the context of the conversation, that it was untrue.

BTW, just look at the numbskulls protesting on college campuses today. What more proof do we need than to watch them openly cry for America's demise.

 

[VTA]

At this point no, but I remember talking on the phone with him that day and he was complaining that he was late to work because of it. This was right after it happened and before anyone was even thinking about anything other than the tragedy. There was not reason for the media to be in Patterson that day and the use of cell phones to record everything and post it on social media was not a big thin in 2001. But the way the conversation transpired and the circumstances, and knowing my friend, there is not reason to believe what he was saying, and in the context of the conversation, that it was untrue.

BTW, just look at the numbskulls protesting on college campuses today. What more proof do we need than to watch them openly cry for America's demise.

It happened and I remember it being reported briefly. The reports and footage were quickly out of sight out of mind.
It wasn't 'thousands' as Trump had claimed - his hyperbole is his achilles, and always gives room for doubt concerning his claims - but I do remember it happening.