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I've always felt mail-in ballots were ripe for fraud. Its too easy to vote for someone else & next to impossible to prove

Do we know if the volume and methods for mail-in ballots changed significantly between 2020 and 2024?

If so, that would explain a lot

It's tough to prove, that's for sure. That's why I think DoJ wants to see the voter rolls for some of these liberal states. NJ miraculously found 500,000 more voters for the last election....and that's in a state where people are fleeing and coming to places like PA to avoid the high tax rate.

You simply cannot out think these people and the ways they cheat and hide their cheats.

 

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It's tough to prove, that's for sure. That's why I think DoJ wants to see the voter rolls for some of these liberal states. NJ miraculously found 500,000 more voters for the last election....and that's in a state where people are fleeing and coming to places like PA to avoid the high tax rate.

You simply cannot out think these people and the ways they cheat and hide their cheats.



to be clear, I’m not saying you or dbair1967 are wrong in claiming there is voter fraud,, I think it’s happening on some level. I’m just trying to understand what the mechanics are behind whatever fraud that may have taken place. And if we can’t point to actual evidence, what is the theoretical reason why they could pull off fraud in 2020 but not 2024?

An example that comes to mind is the potential for illegal aliens to vote but after Biden let in huge numbers, you would think that would give the Democrats even more votes in 2024, yet they lost.

It seems like a reasonable question to me, but if y’all disagree, just tell me why
 

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to be clear, I’m not saying you or dbair1967 are wrong in claiming there is voter fraud,, I think it’s happening on some level. I’m just trying to understand what the mechanics are behind whatever fraud that may have taken place. And if we can’t point to actual evidence, what is the theoretical reason why they could pull off fraud in 2020 but not 2024?

An example that comes to mind is the potential for illegal aliens to vote but after Biden let in huge numbers, you would think that would give the Democrats even more votes in 2024, yet they lost.

It seems like a reasonable question to me, but if y’all disagree, just tell me why

Respectfully, if you can't see the evidence of mass ballot stuffing, many of which are on surveillance video, then I don't know what to tell you. There are anomalies like 500,000 more voters in NJ, improbable ballot drops almost exclusively for Biden, no down ballot votes, etc. that raise serious questions. You have hundreds of poll watchers offer affidavits and first hand accounts of fraud that they've seen in 2020 and that's evidence. More importantly and, in my opinion, the most damning, is that counting stopped in 2020 in ALL the swing states. Not one....not two...but all of them. And Trump was winning until the next day when statistically improbable vote dumps came in. Boxes of ballots were pulled out from under a table and counted "after" voting stopped and Republican poll watcher were told to go home....vans pulling up with pallets of ballots.

Look at what's happening with the judiciary today and ask yourself why no "judge" was willing to look at the evidence in these blue states. These people are not judges, but rather ideologues.

And worse yet, is there has been reporting of destroyed evidence in Georgia. Who destroys (election) evidence except people trying to hide crimes.

We're just a bunch of guys on a message board. But I'm not blind to the evidence just because the MSM is telling me not to believe my lying eyes. It's good to question the logic, but you can't blind yourself to what you're seeing either. There's a reason mail in ballots are banned in most civilized societies and we see first hand the chaos it brings.
 

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to be clear, I’m not saying you or dbair1967 are wrong in claiming there is voter fraud,, I think it’s happening on some level. I’m just trying to understand what the mechanics are behind whatever fraud that may have taken place. And if we can’t point to actual evidence, what is the theoretical reason why they could pull off fraud in 2020 but not 2024?

An example that comes to mind is the potential for illegal aliens to vote but after Biden let in huge numbers, you would think that would give the Democrats even more votes in 2024, yet they lost.

It seems like a reasonable question to me, but if y’all disagree, just tell me why
Yim I don't know what to say buddy. Literally all the shit the left claimed was "outlandish claims with no proof" has all been proven to be true.

When you say "you can't point to actual evidence" despite the fact that bookoos of evidence has been shown, it sounds like the people on the left who simply deny deny deny. They literally have it on video and people still try to dispute it.

The difference between the cheating in 2020 (and 2022) vs 2024 is as easy as looking up on a clear day and determining the sky is blue. The left pushed the Covid sham on everyone and election results depended upon millions and millions of mail in ballots in 2020 and 2022. With everything opened up again by 2024, in person voting was the norm again.
 

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You guys are missing my point, although dbair1967 finally answered when he said:

" The left pushed the Covid sham on everyone and election results depended upon millions and millions of mail in ballots in 2020 and 2022. With everything opened up again by 2024, in person voting was the norm again."

This is what I basically said previously might be the difference as I think mail-in ballots are the easiest for fraud so dbairs answer to my question is that COVID + mail-in ballots provided a unique opportunity In 2020 that was no longer available in 2024--thats all I was asking

For what its worth, this is the only explanation I've come up with thus far considering no one has been prosecuted nor to my knowledge have any significant changes occurred with how voting occurs across the nation since.

I didn't deny election fraud occurred in either election, I merely asked how they weren't able to pull off fraud again while they were in power which is a completely legitimate question considering they were presumably able to do in 2020 and no one got convicted, nothing happened to anyone--which is all the more why they should have been able to pull off fraud again in 2024! Perhaps they did pull off a ton of fraud and that's what made the election appear close but thus far, I can only think of a couple of instances like the Chinese citizen voting in Michigan and a woman in Texas buying votes that received any consequences.

For the record, here's what I've noted for years going back to 2020 regarding election fraud and have made multiple posts here regarding fraud:

* mail-in ballots (EASY fraud because anyone can fill out the ballot and I know a person who filled out a ballot which resulting in a vote for Trump who was incapable of speaking, thinking, going to the bathroom, etc so that was voter fraud imo
* false addresses used for voter registration. Stephen Crowder did a story about a non-existent address under an underpass in Vegas but then nothing came of it, happens all the time apparently where they register homeless and perhaps phantom people to one address like a church because they have no home-see my post#225 in August of 2025
* I saw the Dinesh videos and others about people dropping ballots off in mass and found it suspicious as hell but per usual nothing happens to anyone
* I was listening to the Dave Chang podcast before the 2020 election and he inadvertently said: "I know we're supposed to move to Georgia so we can vote & help win that state but I don't have the time or ability" giving away the fact there there was a concerted effort to do so by the Democrat party or one of its cohorts disguised as a non-profit
* NGO's obtaining funding from taxpayers that ultimately gets filtered back to supporting Democrats who made the funding possible in the first place
* No ID requirements for voting in places like California, NYC
* Automatic voter-registration in certain states when applying for a drivers license which is available to all including illegal aliens
* vouching for up to 8 people to vote in Minnesota
* Brad Raffensperger oversaw elections in 2020 and 2024 and to my knowledge still does at this moment

These are just the few things that come to mind which are highly suspicious and deserving of investigation and prosecution if proven true but we have jack squat to date. All of these examples could have continued in 2024's election, especially considering the Dems were in control

Its a reasonable observation that begs the question why if they were so good at fraud in 2020 weren't they able to do so to an even greater extent in 2024 when they had control of the White House?

*Did the Biden administration (or any states) restrict main-in ballots differently in 2024 making them less ubiquitous?

*Were the number of ballot drop boxes curtailed dramatically or surveilled?

*Were the Dems and their cohorts unable to get people to move and vote in swing states to the extent they did in 2020?

Y'all are inacorrecting concluding my question means I don't believe fraud occurred when my bewilderment comes from pondering if they were so successful in pulling off fraud in 2020, how did they drop the ball so bad in 2024 when to my knowledge no one suffered any consequences, prosecutions or incarcerations? (yes I know they're full of idiots but there are also plenty of diabolical, ruthless actors who will stop at nothing and feel proud with zero reservations about crossing any line that achieves their goals)

If we accept the presupposition that voter fraud occurred in mass to such a degree that the 2020 election was stolen, then its perfectly reason to ponder what changed in 2024 to keep it from happening again?

Asking in no way means I'm blind to all the suspicious things that happened in 2020 and we should be able to contemplate what changed in 2024, perhaps if for no other reason than to endeavor, in whatever small way we can, to keep it from ever happening again

On the voter fraud matter as a whole, I want prosecutions, exposure of all involved, Incarcerations and massive nation wide standards for voting including ID, same day voting and perhaps even piggy-back one of the myriad of stupid government holidays with Super Tuesday so its easier to vote.

I'm tired of mere speculation, accusations and endless promises that so far result in nada
 

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I didn't deny election fraud occurred in either election, I merely asked how they weren't able to pull off fraud again while they were in power which is a completely legitimate question considering they were presumably able to do in 2020 and no one got convicted, nothing happened to anyone--which is all the more why they should have been able to pull off fraud again in 2024!

Yim, it would have been more difficult to pull off the same level of fraud in 2024 and remember that the RNC at that time was co-chaired by Lara Trump. They deployed lawyers all over the country and warned potential fraudsters that they were watching. People were also hip to the drop boxes and private citizens were watching as well. I have no doubt fraud occurred but not at the level of 2020. Remember when the lefties were asking where the 10 million or so votes went from 2020 to 2024? This is just my opinion though.....

My contention with these questions is when folks say there's no evidence or that people haven't gone to jail. I agree with one statement but not the other. There's a ton of evidence, to include sworn statements and affidavits. But the local election officials have to investigate it and they won't because they're in deep blue areas. Judges won't touch it and I initially thought they lacked courage but know I believe they're just ideologues. Look no further than the judge who refused to sign off on the arrest affidavits for Don Lemmon and the church protesters. In 27 plus years in the system I've never seen a federal judge deny a federal arrest warrant; the probable cause for federal arrest affidavits are tight and go through multiple levels of approval before sending them to the judge(s). But now we have judges ruling based on their ideology, rather than the facts and evidence. It's just too much to overcome.

Simply put, I don't need the MSM and leftists politicians telling me the claims were denied or there was no evidence or it was adjudicated. Fuck these people. I know what I see and I know what I hear. They're frauds....every fucking single one of them and this level of fraud makes Watergate look like a minor speeding ticket compared to this scandal.

 

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I'm not saying there's no fraud but what I dont get is how where they able to pull off fraud while Trump was president but not when it would have been even easier during Bidens term?

what do you political geniuses think?
They did it in state hostile to Trump and remember who was running the FBI - Christopher Wray. Who was running the CIA? Gina Haspel. The truth is Trump did a terrible job hiring his first time in office. He has done much better this time around. In 2020, the DOJ was full of Trump's enemies.
 

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Then you're gonna have to help me understand because I'm not seeing it, in fact you're answer as I interpret it, makes my point even stronger because if there were RINOs out to get him when he was president, they are presumably still there when Biden is in office but now Biden and all his psychos have control and can presumably rig the election even more than they were able to when Trump was in office.

What changed that prevented another rigging?

Things I can think of that could have made a difference are: COVID was long gone, people weren't as enflamed against Trump in 2024 as they were in 2020 as the MSM BS started to sink in with people willing to think plus mail-in ballots may not have been as ubiquitous in 2024 where as during COVID they were easily shipped in mass, coupled with people sitting on ass getting enraged by MSM anti-Trump talking points, they presumably had more motivation to vote (against Trump) but none of this is fraud.

As I said, main-in ballots are ripe for fraud so if the ease with which those were utilized in 2020 drastically reduced in 2024, this would explain a lot.

If bad actors had control of voting machines in 2020, how did they lose control by 2024?

I'm not saying there wasn't fraud but if I'm going to believe it and make the argument there was, I want to have facts and evidence on my side and since many here seem sure this is the case, I hoped y'all could help a brother out
After getting the wool pulled over their eyes in 2020 Republicans made an effort to ensure it did not happen again in 2024. This includes some changes to the law in Georgia but primarily they got lawyers by the thousands embedded in states where they suspected there would be foul play - mostly swing states. Remember, the went to court before the election to shut down some practices that made it easy to cheat - like counting ballots that came in after election day or ballots with no date stamp. Give credit where credit is due. Lara Trump did a fabulous job closing down many of the things where fake votes were suspected.
 

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It's tough to prove, that's for sure. That's why I think DoJ wants to see the voter rolls for some of these liberal states. NJ miraculously found 500,000 more voters for the last election....and that's in a state where people are fleeing and coming to places like PA to avoid the high tax rate.

You simply cannot out think these people and the ways they cheat and hide their cheats.


Exactly, NJ has had a population increase of 200,000 people since 2020. Not all of them are eligible voters. So the increase of nearly 500k votes is very shocking.
 

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After getting the wool pulled over their eyes in 2020 Republicans made an effort to ensure it did not happen again in 2024. This includes some changes to the law in Georgia but primarily they got lawyers by the thousands embedded in states where they suspected there would be foul play - mostly swing states. Remember, the went to court before the election to shut down some practices that made it easy to cheat - like counting ballots that came in after election day or ballots with no date stamp. Give credit where credit is due. Lara Trump did a fabulous job closing down many of the things where fake votes were suspected.

Spot on Creeper.....
 

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Exactly, NJ has had a population increase of 200,000 people since 2020. Not all of them are eligible voters. So the increase of nearly 500k votes is very shocking.

And no one challenges it or even questions it, not even the Republican candidate. Republicans are good and gracious losers and it just tells me Jack was the wrong candidate.
 

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They did it in state hostile to Trump and remember who was running the FBI - Christopher Wray. Who was running the CIA? Gina Haspel. The truth is Trump did a terrible job hiring his first time in office. He has done much better this time around. In 2020, the DOJ was full of Trump's enemies.
As I pointed out earlier.
 

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They did it in state hostile to Trump and remember who was running the FBI - Christopher Wray. Who was running the CIA? Gina Haspel. The truth is Trump did a terrible job hiring his first time in office. He has done much better this time around. In 2020, the DOJ was full of Trump's enemies.

After getting the wool pulled over their eyes in 2020 Republicans made an effort to ensure it did not happen again in 2024. This includes some changes to the law in Georgia but primarily they got lawyers by the thousands embedded in states where they suspected there would be foul play - mostly swing states. Remember, the went to court before the election to shut down some practices that made it easy to cheat - like counting ballots that came in after election day or ballots with no date stamp. Give credit where credit is due. Lara Trump did a fabulous job closing down many of the things where fake votes were suspected.
Good stuff, thats the kind of info I figured y'all would be aware of & why I asked.

I dont have time to keep up, its exhausting just trying to swat down the daily BS that gets thrown our way, Alberto Brandolini was right:

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