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I'm honestly not sure he's all that talented. He isnt that big, and his arm is not John Elway or Mahomes-esque at all.
When I watch a lot of the clips I see a guy that either has an eternity in the pocket to find people downfield or runs around behind the LOS in school-yard type plays. And then there's this:
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Kiper's latest Top-25.
Major risers- X Worthy and TJ Tampa
Significant fallers- J Verse, Amarius Mims and JPJ (qualifier, I don't think he has ever had JPJ rated in his first round)
Big Board
1. Caleb Williams QB USC
2. Jayden Daniels QB LSU
3. Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio St.
4. Malik Nabers WR LSU
5. Rome Odunze WR Washington
6. Brock Bowers TE Georgia
7. Drake Maye QB North Carolina
8. Joe Alt T Notre Dame
9. Troy Fautanu G Washington
10. Dallas Turner OLB Alabama
11. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
12. JC Latham T Alabama
13. Laiatu Latu OLB UCLA
14. J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
15. Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo
16. Olumuyiwa Fashanu T Penn St.
17. Xavier Worthy WR Texas
18. Taliese Fuaga T Oregon St.
19. Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
20. Jared Verse DE Florida St.
21. Cooper DeJean CB Iowa
22. Tyler Guyton T Oklahoma
23. Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
24. Byron Murphy II DT Texas
25. T.J. Tampa CB Iowa St.
Major risers- X Worthy and TJ Tampa
Significant fallers- J Verse, Amarius Mims and JPJ (qualifier, I don't think he has ever had JPJ rated in his first round)
Big Board
1. Caleb Williams QB USC
2. Jayden Daniels QB LSU
3. Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio St.
4. Malik Nabers WR LSU
5. Rome Odunze WR Washington
6. Brock Bowers TE Georgia
7. Drake Maye QB North Carolina
8. Joe Alt T Notre Dame
9. Troy Fautanu G Washington
10. Dallas Turner OLB Alabama
11. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
12. JC Latham T Alabama
13. Laiatu Latu OLB UCLA
14. J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
15. Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo
16. Olumuyiwa Fashanu T Penn St.
17. Xavier Worthy WR Texas
18. Taliese Fuaga T Oregon St.
19. Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
20. Jared Verse DE Florida St.
21. Cooper DeJean CB Iowa
22. Tyler Guyton T Oklahoma
23. Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
24. Byron Murphy II DT Texas
25. T.J. Tampa CB Iowa St.
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Kiper position ratings- offense:
Quarterbacks
1. Caleb Williams, USC
2. Jayden Daniels, LSU
3. Drake Maye, North Carolina
4. J.J. McCarthy, Michigan
5. Bo Nix, Oregon
6. Michael Penix Jr., Washington
7. Spencer Rattler, South Carolina
8. Michael Pratt, Tulane
9. Jordan Travis, Florida State
10. Joe Milton III, Tennessee
Running backs
1. Jonathon Brooks, Texas
2. Jaylen Wright, Tennessee
3. Trey Benson, Florida State
4. Blake Corum, Michigan
5. MarShawn Lloyd, USC
6. Ray Davis, Kentucky
7. Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
8. Audric Estime, Notre Dame
9. Bucky Irving, Oregon
10. Rasheen Ali, Marshall
Fullbacks/H-backs
1. Ben Sinnott, Kansas State
2. Jack Westover, Washington
3. Dallin Holker, Colorado State
4. Jaheim Bell, Florida State
5. Trey Knox, South Carolina
Wide receivers
1. Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
2. Malik Nabers, LSU
3. Rome Odunze, Washington
4. Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
5. Xavier Worthy, Texas
6. Xavier Legette, South Carolina
7. Adonai Mitchell, Texas
8. Keon Coleman, Florida State
9. Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
10. Ladd McConkey, Georgia
Tight ends
1. Brock Bowers, Georgia
2. Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas
3. Cade Stover, Ohio State
4. Tanner McLachlan, Arizona
5. Theo Johnson, Penn State
6. Erick All, Iowa
7. Jared Wiley, TCU
8. Mason Pline, Furman
9. Devin Culp, Washington
10. Tip Reiman, Illinois
Offensive tackles
1. Joe Alt, Notre Dame
2. JC Latham, Alabama
3. Olu Fashanu, Penn State
4. Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State
5. Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
6. Amarius Mims, Georgia
7. Jordan Morgan, Arizona
8. Roger Rosengarten, Washington
9. Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
10. Patrick Paul, Houston
Guards
1. Troy Fautanu, Washington
2. Zak Zinter, Michigan
3. Christian Haynes, Connecticut
4. Dominick Puni, Kansas
5. Christian Mahogany, Boston College
6. Cooper Beebe, Kansas State
7. Sataoa Laumea, Utah
8. Mason McCormick, South Dakota State
9. Layden Robinson, Texas A&M
10. Brandon Coleman, TCU
Centers
1. Graham Barton, Duke
2. Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon
3. Zach Frazier, West Virginia
4. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia
5. Tanor Bortolini, Wisconsin
6. Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
7. Matt Lee, Miami
8. Drake Nugent, Michigan
9. Dylan McMahon, NC State
10. Hunter Nourzad, Penn State
Quarterbacks
1. Caleb Williams, USC
2. Jayden Daniels, LSU
3. Drake Maye, North Carolina
4. J.J. McCarthy, Michigan
5. Bo Nix, Oregon
6. Michael Penix Jr., Washington
7. Spencer Rattler, South Carolina
8. Michael Pratt, Tulane
9. Jordan Travis, Florida State
10. Joe Milton III, Tennessee
Running backs
1. Jonathon Brooks, Texas
2. Jaylen Wright, Tennessee
3. Trey Benson, Florida State
4. Blake Corum, Michigan
5. MarShawn Lloyd, USC
6. Ray Davis, Kentucky
7. Braelon Allen, Wisconsin
8. Audric Estime, Notre Dame
9. Bucky Irving, Oregon
10. Rasheen Ali, Marshall
Fullbacks/H-backs
1. Ben Sinnott, Kansas State
2. Jack Westover, Washington
3. Dallin Holker, Colorado State
4. Jaheim Bell, Florida State
5. Trey Knox, South Carolina
Wide receivers
1. Marvin Harrison Jr., Ohio State
2. Malik Nabers, LSU
3. Rome Odunze, Washington
4. Brian Thomas Jr., LSU
5. Xavier Worthy, Texas
6. Xavier Legette, South Carolina
7. Adonai Mitchell, Texas
8. Keon Coleman, Florida State
9. Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
10. Ladd McConkey, Georgia
Tight ends
1. Brock Bowers, Georgia
2. Ja'Tavion Sanders, Texas
3. Cade Stover, Ohio State
4. Tanner McLachlan, Arizona
5. Theo Johnson, Penn State
6. Erick All, Iowa
7. Jared Wiley, TCU
8. Mason Pline, Furman
9. Devin Culp, Washington
10. Tip Reiman, Illinois
Offensive tackles
1. Joe Alt, Notre Dame
2. JC Latham, Alabama
3. Olu Fashanu, Penn State
4. Taliese Fuaga, Oregon State
5. Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
6. Amarius Mims, Georgia
7. Jordan Morgan, Arizona
8. Roger Rosengarten, Washington
9. Kingsley Suamataia, BYU
10. Patrick Paul, Houston
Guards
1. Troy Fautanu, Washington
2. Zak Zinter, Michigan
3. Christian Haynes, Connecticut
4. Dominick Puni, Kansas
5. Christian Mahogany, Boston College
6. Cooper Beebe, Kansas State
7. Sataoa Laumea, Utah
8. Mason McCormick, South Dakota State
9. Layden Robinson, Texas A&M
10. Brandon Coleman, TCU
Centers
1. Graham Barton, Duke
2. Jackson Powers-Johnson, Oregon
3. Zach Frazier, West Virginia
4. Sedrick Van Pran-Granger, Georgia
5. Tanor Bortolini, Wisconsin
6. Beaux Limmer, Arkansas
7. Matt Lee, Miami
8. Drake Nugent, Michigan
9. Dylan McMahon, NC State
10. Hunter Nourzad, Penn State
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Kiper position rankings- defense and special teams
Defensive ends
1. Jared Verse, Florida State
2. Darius Robinson, Missouri
3. Adisa Isaac, Penn State
4. Mohamed Kamara, Colorado State
5. Brennan Jackson, Washington State
6. Marshawn Kneeland, Western Michigan
7. Brandon Dorlus, Oregon
8. Cedric Johnson, Ole Miss
9. Justin Eboigbe, Alabama
10. Braiden McGregor, Michigan
Defensive tackles
1. Byron Murphy II, Texas
2. Braden Fiske, Florida State
3. T'Vondre Sweat, Texas
4. Kris Jenkins, Michigan
5. Jer'Zhan Newton, Illinois
6. Maason Smith, LSU
7. Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson
8. Michael Hall Jr., Ohio State
9. Mekhi Wingo, LSU
10. McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M
Off-ball linebackers
1. Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M
2. Junior Colson, Michigan
3. Payton Wilson, NC State
4. Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Clemson
5. Cedric Gray, North Carolina
6. Bookie Watson, Mississippi State
7. Trevin Wallace, Kentucky
8. Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington
9. Marist Liufau, Notre Dame
10. Tommy Eichenberg, Ohio State
Outside linebackers
1. Dallas Turner, Alabama
2. Laiatu Latu, UCLA
3. Chop Robinson, Penn State
4. Chris Braswell, Alabama
5. Bralen Trice, Washington
6. Jonah Elliss, Utah
7. Austin Booker, Kansas
8. Jalyx Hunt, Houston Christian
9. Gabriel Murphy, UCLA
10. Jaylen Harrell, Michigan
Cornerbacks
1. Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
2. Terrion Arnold, Alabama
3. Cooper DeJean, Iowa
4. Nate Wiggins, Clemson
5. T.J. Tampa, Iowa State
6. Kamari Lassiter, Georgia
7. Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
8. Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
9. Max Melton, Rutgers
10. Mike Sainristil, Michigan
Safeties
1. Tyler Nubin, Minnesota
2. Jaden Hicks, Washington State
3. Javon Bullard, Georgia
4. Cole Bishop, Utah
5. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, Texas Tech
6. Calen Bullock, USC
7. Beau Brade, Maryland
8. Jaylin Simpson, Auburn
9. Kamren Kinchens, Miami
10. Malik Mustapha, Wake Forest
Kickers and Punters
1. Tory Taylor, Iowa (P)
2. Cam Little, Arkansas (K)
3. Joshua Karty, Stanford (K)
4. Austin McNamara, Texas Tech (P)
5. Will Reichard, Alabama (K)
6. Ryan Rehkow, BYU (P)
7. Harrison Mevis, Missouri (K)
8. Matthew Hayball, Vanderbilt (P)
9. Ryan Sanborn, Texas (P)
10. Spencer Shrader, Notre Dame (K)
Defensive ends
1. Jared Verse, Florida State
2. Darius Robinson, Missouri
3. Adisa Isaac, Penn State
4. Mohamed Kamara, Colorado State
5. Brennan Jackson, Washington State
6. Marshawn Kneeland, Western Michigan
7. Brandon Dorlus, Oregon
8. Cedric Johnson, Ole Miss
9. Justin Eboigbe, Alabama
10. Braiden McGregor, Michigan
Defensive tackles
1. Byron Murphy II, Texas
2. Braden Fiske, Florida State
3. T'Vondre Sweat, Texas
4. Kris Jenkins, Michigan
5. Jer'Zhan Newton, Illinois
6. Maason Smith, LSU
7. Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson
8. Michael Hall Jr., Ohio State
9. Mekhi Wingo, LSU
10. McKinnley Jackson, Texas A&M
Off-ball linebackers
1. Edgerrin Cooper, Texas A&M
2. Junior Colson, Michigan
3. Payton Wilson, NC State
4. Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Clemson
5. Cedric Gray, North Carolina
6. Bookie Watson, Mississippi State
7. Trevin Wallace, Kentucky
8. Edefuan Ulofoshio, Washington
9. Marist Liufau, Notre Dame
10. Tommy Eichenberg, Ohio State
Outside linebackers
1. Dallas Turner, Alabama
2. Laiatu Latu, UCLA
3. Chop Robinson, Penn State
4. Chris Braswell, Alabama
5. Bralen Trice, Washington
6. Jonah Elliss, Utah
7. Austin Booker, Kansas
8. Jalyx Hunt, Houston Christian
9. Gabriel Murphy, UCLA
10. Jaylen Harrell, Michigan
Cornerbacks
1. Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
2. Terrion Arnold, Alabama
3. Cooper DeJean, Iowa
4. Nate Wiggins, Clemson
5. T.J. Tampa, Iowa State
6. Kamari Lassiter, Georgia
7. Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
8. Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
9. Max Melton, Rutgers
10. Mike Sainristil, Michigan
Safeties
1. Tyler Nubin, Minnesota
2. Jaden Hicks, Washington State
3. Javon Bullard, Georgia
4. Cole Bishop, Utah
5. Dadrion Taylor-Demerson, Texas Tech
6. Calen Bullock, USC
7. Beau Brade, Maryland
8. Jaylin Simpson, Auburn
9. Kamren Kinchens, Miami
10. Malik Mustapha, Wake Forest
Kickers and Punters
1. Tory Taylor, Iowa (P)
2. Cam Little, Arkansas (K)
3. Joshua Karty, Stanford (K)
4. Austin McNamara, Texas Tech (P)
5. Will Reichard, Alabama (K)
6. Ryan Rehkow, BYU (P)
7. Harrison Mevis, Missouri (K)
8. Matthew Hayball, Vanderbilt (P)
9. Ryan Sanborn, Texas (P)
10. Spencer Shrader, Notre Dame (K)
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Reported 30 visits for the Dallas Cowboys: -
OT Taliese Fuaga (Oregon State) -
RB Trey Benson (Florida State) -
RB Bucky Irving (Oregon) -
C Jackson Powers-Johnson (Oregon) -
LB Junior Colson (Michigan) -
DE Darius Robinson (Missouri) -
OL Graham Barton (Duke) -
RB Braelon Allen (Wisconsin) -
RB Jonathon Brooks (Texas) -
LB Trevin Wallace (Kentucky) - reported by
@nhutchisontv
- LB Edgerrin Cooper (Texas A&M) - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- OT Matt Goncalves (Pittsburgh) - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- LB Nathaniel Watson (Mississippi State) - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- LB Jordan Magee (Temple) - reported by
@JakeRabadiNFL
- LB Payton Wilson (NC State) - reported by
@BryanBroaddus
- DT Byron Murphy II - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- RB Rasheen Ali - reported by
@dpbrugler
- WR Malachi Corley - reported by
@EdwardsCBS
OT Taliese Fuaga (Oregon State) -
RB Trey Benson (Florida State) -
RB Bucky Irving (Oregon) -
C Jackson Powers-Johnson (Oregon) -
LB Junior Colson (Michigan) -
DE Darius Robinson (Missouri) -
OL Graham Barton (Duke) -
RB Braelon Allen (Wisconsin) -
RB Jonathon Brooks (Texas) -
LB Trevin Wallace (Kentucky) - reported by
@nhutchisontv
- LB Edgerrin Cooper (Texas A&M) - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- OT Matt Goncalves (Pittsburgh) - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- LB Nathaniel Watson (Mississippi State) - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- LB Jordan Magee (Temple) - reported by
@JakeRabadiNFL
- LB Payton Wilson (NC State) - reported by
@BryanBroaddus
- DT Byron Murphy II - reported by
@_RyanFowler_
- RB Rasheen Ali - reported by
@dpbrugler
- WR Malachi Corley - reported by
@EdwardsCBS
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Daniel Jeremiah updated top-50
1. Caleb Williams QB USC
2. Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio St.
3. Rome Odunze WR Washington
4. Malik Nabers WR LSU
5. Drake Maye QB North Carolina
6. Jayden Daniels QB LSU
7. Brock Bowers TE Georgia
8. Joe Alt T Notre Dame
9. Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
10. Taliese Fuaga T Oregon St.
11. Troy Fautanu T Washington
12. Dallas Turner EDGE Alabama
13. Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo
14. Jared Verse EDGE Florida St.
15. Olumuyiwa Fashanu T Penn St.
16. Laiatu Latu EDGE UCLA
17. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
18. JC Latham T Alabama
19. Byron Murphy II DT Texas
20. J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
21. Chop Robinson EDGE Penn St.
22. Amarius Mims T Georgia
23. Tyler Guyton T Oklahoma
24. Graham Barton C Duke
25. Cooper DeJean CB Iowa
26. Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
27. Adonai Mitchell WR Texas
28. Ennis Rakestraw Jr. CB Missouri
29. Bo Nix QB Oregon
30. Jackson Powers-Johnson C Oregon
31. Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
32. Jer'Zhan Newton DT Illinois
33. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
34. Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
35. Xavier Worthy WR Texas
36. Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
37. Zach Frazier C West Virginia
38. Braden Fiske DT Florida St.
39. Darius Robinson EDGE Missouri
40. Ricky Pearsall WR Florida
41. Payton Wilson LB North Carolina St.
42. Troy Franklin WR Oregon
43. Keon Coleman WR Florida St.
44. Junior Colson LB Michigan
45. Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky
46. Marshawn Kneeland EDGE Western Michigan
47. Roman Wilson WR Michigan
48. Maason Smith DT LSU
49. Jordan Morgan T Arizona
50. Max Melton CB Rutgers
DROPPED OUT: Kamari Lassiter CB Georgia (No. 36).
1. Caleb Williams QB USC
2. Marvin Harrison Jr. WR Ohio St.
3. Rome Odunze WR Washington
4. Malik Nabers WR LSU
5. Drake Maye QB North Carolina
6. Jayden Daniels QB LSU
7. Brock Bowers TE Georgia
8. Joe Alt T Notre Dame
9. Terrion Arnold CB Alabama
10. Taliese Fuaga T Oregon St.
11. Troy Fautanu T Washington
12. Dallas Turner EDGE Alabama
13. Quinyon Mitchell CB Toledo
14. Jared Verse EDGE Florida St.
15. Olumuyiwa Fashanu T Penn St.
16. Laiatu Latu EDGE UCLA
17. Brian Thomas Jr. WR LSU
18. JC Latham T Alabama
19. Byron Murphy II DT Texas
20. J.J. McCarthy QB Michigan
21. Chop Robinson EDGE Penn St.
22. Amarius Mims T Georgia
23. Tyler Guyton T Oklahoma
24. Graham Barton C Duke
25. Cooper DeJean CB Iowa
26. Edgerrin Cooper LB Texas A&M
27. Adonai Mitchell WR Texas
28. Ennis Rakestraw Jr. CB Missouri
29. Bo Nix QB Oregon
30. Jackson Powers-Johnson C Oregon
31. Nate Wiggins CB Clemson
32. Jer'Zhan Newton DT Illinois
33. Michael Penix Jr. QB Washington
34. Ladd McConkey WR Georgia
35. Xavier Worthy WR Texas
36. Kool-Aid McKinstry CB Alabama
37. Zach Frazier C West Virginia
38. Braden Fiske DT Florida St.
39. Darius Robinson EDGE Missouri
40. Ricky Pearsall WR Florida
41. Payton Wilson LB North Carolina St.
42. Troy Franklin WR Oregon
43. Keon Coleman WR Florida St.
44. Junior Colson LB Michigan
45. Malachi Corley WR Western Kentucky
46. Marshawn Kneeland EDGE Western Michigan
47. Roman Wilson WR Michigan
48. Maason Smith DT LSU
49. Jordan Morgan T Arizona
50. Max Melton CB Rutgers
DROPPED OUT: Kamari Lassiter CB Georgia (No. 36).
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NFL Draft 2024 consensus Big Board: How high can Trey Benson, Jackson Powers-Johnson rise?
Which 2024 prospects are rising and falling as we head into the final few weeks before the NFL Draft?
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Which 3 guys are you taking for us if draft fell this way? (we have picks #24, #56 and #87)
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round 1 - anyone but byron murphy
round 2 - anyone but brooks
round 3 - anyone but sanders
whatever with the rest of the rounds