2023 NFL Draft Thread

[dbair1967]

I don't hate the Luke Schoonmaker pick. He was someone I thought we might look at if the other TE's got scooped up although I thought it was a tad early for him. But he's a Harbaugh TE. I loved Harbaugh TE's at Stanford and I like them from Michigan, why? Because he coaches his TE's to be like NFL TE's. They are a huge part of his blocking schemes and almost all of them turn into quality receiving TE options (the Stanford TE's continued to be good prospects after he left because of David Shaw, like Dalton Schultz was)

Schoonmaker also tested incredibly well and our TE coach Lunda Wells said Schoon had the best blocking fundamentals of any TE in the draft. I think we are all going to be pleasantly surprised with him, really the only downside to him is he's already 24, but I believe George Kittle was a little older when the Niners got him too.

Love the Overshown pick and so did many other draft/personnel people, including ESPN's Louis Reddick. He'll be a massive upgrade over Jabril Cox and may find his way onto the defense in some sub packages as a rookie. Was a former safety, can run and cover and as Daniel Jeremiah pointed out Texas utilized him as a spy on the QB the past two seasons alot, and he excels at it.

 

[dbair1967]

Schooooooonnnnnnnn

 

[dbair1967]

Overshown

 

[dbair1967]

Schoonmaker interview

 

[dbair1967]

Overshown interview

 

[dbair1967]

1. Kelee Ringo CB Georgia
2. Dawand Jones T Ohio St.
3. Adetomiwa Adebawore DT Northwestern
4. Darius Rush CB South Carolina
5. Anthony Bradford G LSU

6. Isaiah McGuire DE Missouri
7. Blake Freeland T BYU
8. Jaquelin Roy DT LSU
9. Nick Herbig ILB Wisconsin
10. Clark Phillips III CB Utah

11. Chandler Zavala G North Carolina St.
12. Cory Trice CB Purdue
13. Roschon Johnson RB Texas
14. Antonio Johnson S Texas A&M
15. Henry To'oTo'o ILB Alabama

16. Kayshon Boutte WR LSU
17. Luke Wypler C Ohio St.
18. Keondre Coburn DT Texas
19. Charlie Jones WR Iowa
20. Israel Abanikanda RB Pittsburgh

21. Parker Washington WR Penn St.
22. JL Skinner S Boise St.
23. Will Mallory TE Miami
24. Yasir Abdullah OLB Louisville
25. Zach Evans RB Mississippi

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27. Jake Haener QB Fresno St.
28. Terell Smith CB Minnesota
29. Tyler Scott WR Cincinnati
30. Braeden Daniels G Utah

31. A.T. Perry WR Wake Forest
32. Josh Whyle TE Cincinnati
33. Jalen Redmond DT Oklahoma
34. Owen Pappoe ILB Auburn
35. Ivan Pace Jr. ILB Cincinnati

36. Carrington Valentine CB Kentucky
37. Zack Kuntz TE Old Dominion
38. Kyu Blu Kelly CB Stanford
39. Joey Fisher T Shepherd
40. K.J. Henry DE Clemson

41. Colby Wooden DT Auburn
42. Rakim Jarrett WR Maryland
43. Rejzohn Wright CB Oregon St.
44. Cameron Young DT Mississippi St.
45. Eric Gray RB Oklahoma

46. Daniel Scott S California
47. Lonnie Phelps OLB Kansas
48. Tavius Robinson OLB Mississippi
49. Sidy Sow G Eastern Michigan
50. Carter Warren T Pittsburgh

 

[dbair1967]

Kiper and McShay final draft rankings of our top 3 picks :

Kiper:
Smith – 30
Schoonmaker – 79
Overshown – 94

McShay:
Smith – 38
Schoonmaker – 71
Overshown – 89

 

[dbair1967]

This was Bob McGinn's final top-100 release. He (like Gosselin was) have been by far the most accurate in predicting top-100's for a long time.

All 3 of our picks were in his top-100. He lists them in order he has them ranked for each position group.

Here is my first and only listing of how I’m projecting the first 100 players to be selected Thursday and Friday in the NFL draft.

Players are listed from best to worst within each position group.

This also will serve as my entry into The Huddle Report’s Top 100 board contest. According to THR, these scores have become the standard by which draft publications, sites and media personnel are measured.

Since first entering in 2009 my board has finished first five times (2011, 2012, 2013, 2019, 2022) and tied for second twice (2010, 2020). In terms of five-year averages (2018-’22), mine is tied for first place with NFL Draft Rough at 86.0.

OFFENSE (52)
Wide receivers (12): Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Ohio State; Jordan Addison, Southern California; Quentin Johnston, Texas Christian; Zay Flowers, Boston College; Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee; Josh Downs, North Carolina; Jonathan Mingo, Mississippi; Cedric Tillman, Tennessee; Marvin Mims, Oklahoma; Tyler Scott, Cincinnati; Nathaniel Dell, Houston; Jayden Reed, Michigan State.

Tight ends (9): Michael Mayer, Notre Dame; Dalton Kincaid, Utah; Luke Musgrave, Oregon State; Sam LaPorta, Iowa; Darnell Washington, Georgia; Luke Schoonmaker, Michigan; Tucker Kraft, South Dakota State; Josh Whyle, Cincinnati; Brenton Strange, Penn State.

Tackles (7): Paris Johnson, Ohio State; Broderick Jones, Georgia; Darnell Wright, Tennessee; Anton Harrison, Oklahoma; Matt Bergeron, Syracuse; Dawand Jones, Ohio State; Carter Warren, Pittsburgh.

Guards (7): Peter Skoronski, Northwestern; Cody Mauch, North Dakota State; Steve Avila, Texas Christian; O’Cyrus Torrence, Florida; Chandler Zavala, North Carolina State; Nick Saldiveri, Old Dominion; Atonio Mafi, UCLA.

Centers (4): Joe Tippmann, Wisconsin; John Michael Schmitz, Minnesota; Juice Scruggs, Penn State; Luke Wypler, Ohio State.

Quarterbacks (6): Bryce Young, Alabama; C.J. Stroud, Ohio State; Will Levis, Kentucky; Anthony Richardson, Florida; Hendon Hooker, Tennessee; Jake Haener, Fresno State.

Running backs (7): Bijan Robinson, Texas; Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama; Zach Charbonnet, UCLA; Kendre Miller, Texas Christian; Devon Achane, Texas A&M; Roschon Johnson, Texas; Israel Abanikanda, Pittsburgh.

DEFENSE (48)
Defensive line (8): Jalen Carter, Georgia; Bryan Bresee, Clemson; Keeanu Benton, Wisconsin; Mazi Smith, Michigan; Calijah Kancey, Pittsburgh; Keion White, Georgia Tech; Adetomiwa Adebawore, Northwestern; Gervon Dexter, Florida State;

Edge rushers (13): Will Anderson, Alabama; Lukas Van Ness, Iowa; Tyree Wilson, Texas Tech; Myles Murphy, Clemson; Will McDonald, Iowa State; Nolan Smith, Georgia; Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame; Derick Hall, Auburn; BJ Ojulari, Louisiana State; Byron Young, Tennessee; Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State; Tuli Tuipultou, Southern California; Zach Harrison, Ohio State.

Linebackers (6): Jack Campbell, Iowa; Drew Sanders, Arkansas; Trenton Simpson, Clemson; DeMarvion Overshown, Texas; Daiyan Henley, Washington State; Dorian Williams, Tulane.

Cornerbacks (15): Christian Gonzalez, Oregon; Devon Witherspoon, Illinois; Joey Porter, Penn State; Deonte Banks, Maryland; Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State; DJ Turner, Michigan; Cam Smith, South Carolina; Kelee Ringo, Georgia; Clark Phillips, Utah; Darius Rush, South Carolina; Josh Brents, Kansas State; Garrett Williams, Syracuse; Riley Moss, Iowa; Jakorian Bennett, Maryland; Tyrique Stevenson, Miami.

Safeties (6): Brian Branch, Alabama; Quay Martin, Illinois; Sydney Brown, Illinois; Antonio Johnson, Texas A&M; Jammie Robinson, Florida State; Ji’Ayir Brown, Penn State.

 

[dbair1967]

 

[Maveric]

I don't hate the Luke Schoonmaker pick. He was someone I thought we might look at if the other TE's got scooped up although I thought it was a tad early for him. But he's a Harbaugh TE. I loved Harbaugh TE's at Stanford and I like them from Michigan, why? Because he coaches his TE's to be like NFL TE's. They are a huge part of his blocking schemes and almost all of them turn into quality receiving TE options (the Stanford TE's continued to be good prospects after he left because of David Shaw, like Dalton Schultz was)

Schoonmaker also tested incredibly well and our TE coach Lunda Wells said Schoon had the best blocking fundamentals of any TE in the draft. I think we are all going to be pleasantly surprised with him, really the only downside to him is he's already 24, but I believe George Kittle was a little older when the Niners got him too.

I don't dislike Schoonmaker. He was definately not at the top of my list, but if we weren't taking a te in the first round, he's probably better value than what it would have cost to trade up for one in the second.

Love the Overshown pick and so did many other draft/personnel people, including ESPN's Louis Reddick. He'll be a massive upgrade over Jabril Cox and may find his way onto the defense in some sub packages as a rookie. Was a former safety, can run and cover and as Daniel Jeremiah pointed out Texas utilized him as a spy on the QB the past two seasons alot, and he excels at it.

The Overshown pick excites me. Great value, they may limit his time to start but he'll earn his way onto the field pretty quickly.

 

[dbair1967]

Another list of best available. Bolded a few that I like for us. Couple not listed here that I like for RB are Georgia's Kenny McIntosh and UAB's Dewayne McBride. QB Tanner McKee, Clayton Tune maybe Stetson Bennett. Also really like the C from Michigan Oluwatimi.

The first three rounds of the 2023 NFL Draft have drawn to a close. There was significant action at the top of the draft order, but plenty of good players are still waiting to hear their names called entering Day 3. Here are the best prospects still available, according to CBS Sports' consensus prospect rankings.

38. Adetomiwa Adebawore, DL, Northwestern
48. Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia
51. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati
54. Jakorian Bennett, CB, Maryland
57. JL Skinner, S, Boise State
59. Jalen Redmond, DL, Oklahoma
66. Blake Freeland, OT, BYU
67. Karl Brooks, DT, Bowling Green
68. Andre Carter II, EDGE, Army
70. Antonio Johnson, S, Texas A&M
79. Roschon Johnson, RB, Texas
80. Nick Saldiveri, OL, Old Dominion
81. Moro Ojomo, DT, Texas
82. Clark Phillips III, CB, Utah
84. Darius Rush, CB, South Carolina
85. Cory Trice, CB, Purdue
88. Chandler Zavala, IOL, NC State
89. Dawand Jones, OT, Ohio State
93. Eli Ricks, CB, Alabama
96. Colby Wooden, DL, Auburn
97. Parker Washington, WR, Penn State
100. Jaquelin Roy, DL, LSU
101. Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland
103. Jaylon Jones, CB, Texas A&M
104. Terell Smith, CB, Minnesota
105. Anthony Bradford, IOL, LSU
107. Brandon Joseph, S, Notre Dame
109. Daniel Scott, S, California
111. Nick Herbig, EDGE, Wisconsin
112. Jammie Robinson, S, Florida State
113. Kaevon Merriweather, S, Iowa
115. Isaiah McGuire, DL, Missouri
117. Andrew Vorhees, IOL, USC
118. Starling Thomas V, CB, UAB
119. Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton
120. AT Perry, WR, Wake Forest
121. Kei'Trel Clark, CB, Louisville
122. Kayshon Boutte, WR, LSU
123. Luke Wypler, IOL, Ohio State
126. Richard Gouraige, OT, Florida
127. Sidy Sow, IOL, Eastern Michigan
128. Kyu Blu Kelly, CB, Stanford
129. Will Mallory, TE, Miami
130. Viliami Fehoko, EDGE, San Jose State
131. Zach Evans, RB, Ole Miss
132. Henry Bainivalu, IOL, Washington
133. Braeden Daniels, OT, Utah
134. Warren McClendon, OT, Georgia
135. DeMario Douglas, WR, Liberty
136. Trey Palmer, WR, Nebraska
137. Myles Brooks, CB, Louisiana Tech
140. Gervarrius Owens, S, Houston
141. Jay Ward, CB, LSU
142. Henry To'oTo'o, LB, Alabama
143. Owen Pappoe, LB, Auburn
144. Jake Haener, QB, Fresno State
145. Dante Stills, DL, West Virginia
146. Nick Broeker, OT, Ole Miss
148. Quindell Johnson, S, Memphis
150. Darrell Luter Jr, CB, South Alabama

 

[Aggiepride]

We do have a stud LG. His name is Tyler Smith. I understand that Tyron gets hurt. But we have been developing Josh Ball and Waletzko, and they like the way Farniok has come along.

They wouldn't have wasted their time signing Chuma Edoga if they didn't think he could play.

Plus, there are still decent G prospects left on the board. A guy like Anthony Bradford, maybe Voorhees. Even OT who might move to G like the kid from Old Dominion.

 

[Aggiepride]

Just remember that nobody really knows squat until the real pads come on.
I remember when the Giants signed Will Hernandez. He was supposed to be a stud guard. The reality is not so much.

Who remembers who the best RB in the Emmitt Smith class was supposed to be or the LB that Jimmy coveted?

Blair Thomas and James Francis.

So all I'm saying is let's try to be positive and at least wait to trash the picks once we see them play.

 

[Aggiepride]

As of pick 16 in round 4 here are some names of prospects that are decently regarded still available regardless of position. I think if you chase position you make mistakes. Just get good players and figure out how to fill in needs in the second wave of free agency or trade.

There are still decent prospects available..

Tyler Scott WR
Antonio Johnson SAF
Terell SMtih CB
AT Perry WR
Zach Evans RB
JL Skinner SAF
Joey Fisher G (played OT in college)
Andrew Vorhees G
Eric Gray RB

 

[dbair1967]

Cowboys took another pre-draft visitor, pass rusher Viliami "Junior" Fehoko. Is not related to the Fehoko we drafted last yr, but is related to Bucs DT Vita Vea.

Has a lot of pass rush and TFL production and apparently San Jose St defensive coaches used him all over the front 7.

 

[dbair1967]

For a draft that everyone thought would be pretty offense heavy, it aint.

3 picks of 4 are DL/LB. 4 of 6 on defense if you also count the trade for Gilmore.

 

[dbair1967]

Barring trades, we have 3 picks remaining. 169, 212 and 244.

They are currently on pick 140.

 

[Aggiepride]

Is Josh Ball that bad or is it more that these woke cucks are still ticked off at him for getting into trouble with domestic violence?

I remember that when Ball was drafted, one guy immediately said that he hoped Ball wouldn't make the team because of it.

Ball had a decent scouting report coming out, and I really haven't seen a reason to be so down on him.

 

[Aggiepride]

If Vorhees is there, I think Dallas has to take him. Draft him and stash him. Maybe McKee might be worth a shot as a QB if they think they can clean up his throwing motion.

All the other QBs are a wasted pick, IMO. We might be able to get Duggan as a UDFA.

I've seen Noah Ruggles decently graded. I don't think anyone has drafted him yet. But, I'd wait until round 7 because, again, he might be available as a UDFA. He won't find too many better opportunities to win a starting job than Dallas.

 

[dbair1967]

Is Josh Ball that bad or is it more that these woke cucks are still ticked off at him for getting into trouble with domestic violence?

I remember that when Ball was drafted, one guy immediately said that he hoped Ball wouldn't make the team because of it.

Ball had a decent scouting report coming out, and I really haven't seen a reason to be so down on him.

McCarthy said they were going to move Ball inside to G and try him there in offseason and training camp. I dout he makes the team this year.

It does sound like they are very excited about Matt Waletzko though. He very well may end up the starting RT depending on Terrance Steele's recovery and effectiveness once he does return.

Todd Archer just tweeted that the coaches said if the season started today, Tyler Smith would start at LG with Tyron back at LT.

I still think they are likely to sign another free agent before camp starts, maybe as soon as this week.