2015 NFL Week #14: Dallas Cowboys (4-8) @ Green Bay Packers (8-4)

[bbgun]

I wouldn't throw a fit if he gets a chance to compete for the backup job next yr, but under no circumstance should he just inherit it.

I'd blow a gasket. I don't wanna hear any of that "with a full camp under his belt" bullshit, either. he's ghastly.

 

[dbair1967]

Just read Khalil Mack had 5 sacks TODAY

DeMarcus Lawrence leads our team in sacks with 6 total.

Mack now has 14 sacks on the season.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Just for ya'lls information, since Darren McFadden gashed Green Bay for 50 yards on his second carry, he's gotten only 3 carries.

Because they immediately SIT him after the big run! That's the LAST thing you should do. RUN that fucker while he's a little winded this is how a RB gets STRONGER and can dominate a game.

Explain the logic to the fact that we basically ran the ball straight down their damn throats at the start of the 2nd half then we basically abandoned the running game?

Just doesn't make any sense at all

It's Garrett out thinking himself as always. With McFadden's success off those first couple of runs, Garrett anticipated that Green Bay will make a concerted effort to stop the run from then on. So Garret's like, "I'll show them. I'll stop the run before they do." He's playing chess against himself and he's losing.

 

[Scot]

It's not all Garret's fault guys

I know this is a Garret hate fest

But....

When our $70 million dollar star receiver puts up numbers like this


Drops three balls. Two which would converted third downs to first downs and one in the endzone which causes an INT and costs us a TD AGAIN

It's not all coaching

And don't gimme this shit that it was raining either, the ball was slick blah blah blah

Dez has allowed himself to get shutout in how many games this season now?

He cost us a TD which turned into and INT in this game and he did the same thing in the Bucks game. He blew a catch that should have been a TD and instead turns into an INT costing us that game.

Then he lets himself get taken out of a play in the Miami game because he wants to talk shit to the corner instead of sticking with the play and possibly saving an INT pick six

So it's not all coaching

Granted coaching is our biggest issue. When we repeatedly throw for 9 yards when we need 10 for the first there simply is no excuse for that kind of stupidity. I think that happened at least three times this game that I remember. And it has happened countless times all season. It's a pattern we tend to have

But when our star player gets shut down repeatedly and allows his emotions to take him out of plays we have huge problems besides just the horrible coaching

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Was anyone else shocked at how bad Cassel was? I mean, he looked like undrafted camp fodder. I seriously think by about halfway through he had the yips. Looked like he didn't trust himself at all and didn't even want to pull the trigger. Weeden wasn't any worse than that.

Also, the "official" postgame show was sickening. Right after the game they actually broached the subject of what it would take to get Garrett fired. But by the end, that Gavin Dawson dude actually said you can't blame Garrett, that this season was all about injuries. He claimed that the league was set up so teams could only be good once out of every three or four years. He even said the *only* way you could be good every year was to have a HOF QB and to cheat.

Yes, he actually said that.

Wonder if he got a call from above that he'd better start sugarcoating.

 

[Scot]

 

[Doomsday]

It's not all Garret's fault guys

I know this is a Garret hate fest

But....

When our $70 million dollar star receiver puts up numbers like this
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Drops three balls. Two which would converted third downs to first downs and one in the endzone which causes an INT and costs us a TD AGAIN

It's not all coaching

And don't gimme this shit that it was raining either, the ball was slick blah blah blah

Dez has allowed himself to get shutout in how many games this season now?

He cost us a TD which turned into and INT in this game and he did the same thing in the Bucks game. He blew a catch that should have been a TD and instead turns into an INT costing us that game.

Then he lets himself get taken out of a play in the Miami game because he wants to talk shit to the corner instead of sticking with the play and possibly saving an INT pick six

So it's not all coaching

Granted coaching is our biggest issue. When we repeatedly throw for 9 yards when we need 10 for the first there simply is no excuse for that kind of stupidity. I think that happened at least three times this game that I remember. And it has happened countless times all season. It's a pattern we tend to have

But when our star player gets shut down repeatedly and allows his emotions to take him out of plays we have huge problems besides just the horrible coaching

That's ALL symptoms of.... Feckless HC leadership.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Is Scot drunk?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm glad I have other things to do than watch these fucking Cowboys. Like hang out with women.

I don't know why I checked my NFL mobile immediately leaving her apartment. Maybe I was expecting them to win or something.

 

[Scot]

Dez dropping balls all season is coaching?

No it's not. It's lack of execution on the part of the player!

Now Dez giving up on the play in the endzone because he thought he was going to get a PI call...
That's coaching! Dez talking shit as an INT is run back for a TD, yes that's coaching.

But him not executing and dropping balls is all on the player

 

[Scot]

Is Scot drunk?

Not yet, still working on it. The night is still young

But you can't blame Dez dropping balls on coaching or bad play calling. When a ball hits him in the numbers and he drops it that's the players fault. Not the coaches. When the ball hits him in the hands and bounces off for an INT, that's the players fault, not the coaches. When your star receiver is targeted 6 times and only catches one ball and drops three, that's on the player not the coaches

That's all I'm saying

We all know Dez can catch the ball, we all know Dez can make amazing catches, some that only he would have been able to make, we have seen it time and time again. Just not this season. For some reason Dez can't catch the ball for shit this season. Not sure why. But he's lost his mojo this year. Maybe holding out of camp really hurt him this year. He has only had one Dez type catch this year which is the one where he went up over every damn body to come down for the TD. Which is the play that he injured his knee

But other than that he hasn't done shit. I personally expect more out of my $70 million dollar number one star receiver!

 

[Doomsday]

Dez dropping balls all season is coaching?

No it's not. It's lack of execution on the part of the player!

Now Dez giving up on the play in the endzone because he thought he was going to get a PI call...
That's coaching! Dez talking shit as an INT is run back for a TD, yes that's coaching.

But him not executing and dropping balls is all on the player... But you can't blame Dez dropping balls on coaching or bad play calling. When a ball hits him in the numbers and he drops it that's the players fault. Not the coaches. When the ball hits him in the hands and bounces off for an INT, that's the players fault, not the coaches. When your star receiver is targeted 6 times and only catches one ball and drops three, that's on the player not the coaches

The drops happen because they are tolerated. The HC just claps, slaps him on the butt and tells him it's okay. How many times have you seen Garrett clap, slap his butt and say "that's okay we'll get 'em next time."

Garrett reinforces and even rewards, inaccurate football responses. Therefore the inaccurate football responses continue.

 

[Scot]

The drops happen because they are tolerated. The HC just claps, slaps him on the butt and tells him it's okay. How many times have you seen Garrett clap, slap his butt and say "that's okay we'll get 'em next time."

Garrett reinforces and even rewards, inaccurate football responses.

This is true
He should have been held accountable for giving up on the play in the Bucks game that cost us the TD and instead allowed the ball to be intercepted costing us the win

And again for giving up on the INT/pick six against Miami so he could talk shit to the corner covering him instead of trying to save the pick six! Who by the way shut him down

So yes that's all on the coaching

But his lack of execution is all on him. Averaging 48 yards a game is unacceptable for our number one receiver. Being shut out 3 out of 7 games is unacceptable for our number one receiver. Especially after sitting out all season on a contract dispute and finally getting paid! He should be out there proving he was worth the money we paid him. Instead he's making it look like a mistake for giving him the big contract

 

[Doomsday]

But his lack of execution is all on him.

That's COACHING. He is not executing because not executing has been acceptable. You think he executes perfectly in practice then goes out there on game day and shits the bed? NO. You play the way you practice and if you are allowed to be undisciplined and sloppy in practice, you WILL be that way on game day. Garrett reinforces and even rewards, inaccurate football responses during the game AND in practice. Therefore the inaccurate football responses continue.

C'mon Man. Yes it is a shit player who lets his game go downhill, but it is the coach's JOB to not let it happen. Garrett LETS it happen.

 

[cmd34]

Remember how Dez's 3 dropped passes made the Cowboys lose 9 games?

Dez is clearly an issue but the fact that his shitty behavior goes unchecked falls on leadership and coaching.

The team needs a coach that is strong enough to keep Jerry at bay and get players like Dez focused and accountable.

 

[Doomsday]

Dez is clearly an issue but the fact that his shitty behavior goes unchecked falls on leadership and coaching.

The team needs a coach that is strong enough to keep Jerry at bay and get players like Dez focused and accountable.

DING!

 

[Scot]

So according to your Logic Dooms Dez' lack of execution is all on the coaching

Ok fair enough

If that's the logic you want to use so be it

So last year when Dez had stellar execution, had his best season ever, and led the league in TD catches that was all great execution and due to the coaching

Yet Garret was the HC in both instances

Yep

Makes sense to me.

 

[Hoofbite]

Dez looks like he's taken his big ass check and called it a day.

Looks like a guy who's entirely relying on his ability to get the job done.

I've been growing tired of seeing him need a 5 minute break on the sideline after a catch or two. This guy has the lung strength of a person with cystic fibrosis at the summit of Everest.

 

[Doomsday]

So last year when Dez had stellar execution, had his best season ever, and led the league in TD catches that was all great execution and due to the coaching

Contract year motivation. Does all and gives all, for the big paper. Doesn't matter who the coach is there, in that scenario. YOU said it was due to coaching and I never did.

What you don't seem to understand - the player lacks motivation this year, he got his big money and knows he can't be stellar anyway having missed significant time. Keeps having little nagging "injuries." Goes out there and keeps shitting the bed.

THE COACH IS TOLERATING IT. That is why it continues.

Last year he didn't need a disciplinarian very much - he was his OWN disciplinarian. This year he NEEDS one and doesn't have it.

Did you ever actually suit up and play any football?

 

[Scot]

Dez looks like he's taken his big ass check and called it a day.

Looks like a guy who's entirely relying on his ability to get the job done.

I've been growing tired of seeing him need a 5 minute break on the sideline after a catch or two. This guy has the lung strength of a person with cystic fibrosis at the summit of Everest.

Exactly
With nothing left to play for he seems to be phoning it in

Yeah yeah yeah we were one game out of first place. We weren't out of the playoff picture... Blah blah blah

Yes we were
When we went 0-7 in Romo's absence the season was all but over. (Now we are 1-9)

When he went down with his second broken collarbone of the year the season was absolutely over. This whole hoping we can win out the rest of the games without Romo to make the playoffs was the pipe dream of a bunch of crack heads

Say we did somehow win enough games to make the playoffs, then say Romo somehow heals in 5 weeks instead of 8 and is back for the playoffs...

He was still going to be rusty and have a performance on par with the one he had in Miami

We never once stood a chance at the SB this season, not even from game one!

The players know that and I believe Dez just doesn't give a shit and isn't playing like he would be if we truly had a shot to go all the way like we did last year!