2013 Cap Set at just under 124 mils

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Teams get more money to spend - salary cap for new league year is $123.9 million per team after accounting of league revenues, per sources.
 

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And we are officially under that cap number now, per various reports.
 

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I just want them to restructure Romo and resign Spencer to witness the meltdown here. Probably be the same as last year whent he franchise tag was placed on him. OMG $8.7m??!?!?!?!?!?
 
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So glad we were able to guarantee a lot of money into future years just so we could squeeze under the cap this year.

GO COWBOYS!!!
 

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How much dead money are we looking at next year and the following year because of these restructures? Do you know or do you just like to bitch?
 

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So glad we were able to guarantee a lot of money into future years just so we could squeeze under the cap this year.

GO COWBOYS!!!

Ha ha ha, isn't that the truth. We're okay this year but fucked in the next four.
 

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Even though we're under now according to some reports, we still won't have a lot to spend in free agency, plus we still need to sign our rookies after the draft.
 

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Free and Connor are both not dealt with. Then of course there is the Romo contract. If we are under the cap now and we do all three than that is over $10m more in cap room.

Free doesn't help us until after June 1 unless he volunteers for a pay cut but that right there is your rookie room.

Romo currently costs $12m. Extending him presumable will save AT LEAST $4m. Connor saves $3m.

For a reference, Carr's contract hit last year was $3m if I am not mistaken.

But why bother actually looking at specifics and guess that the end is nigh.
 

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I just want them to restructure Romo and resign Spencer to witness the meltdown here. Probably be the same as last year whent he franchise tag was placed on him. OMG $8.7m??!?!?!?!?!?

Actually, that was the dumbest fucking move the team could have made for a number of reasons.

I would have given him a long term deal before franchising but would have let him go before giving him a longterm deal.

Franchising him was the worst move the team could have made because he hadn't earned it and it put Dallas in the situation of having to get something done with him this year.
 

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Actually, that was the dumbest fucking move the team could have made for a number of reasons.

I would have given him a long term deal before franchising but would have let him go before giving him a longterm deal.

Franchising him was the worst move the team could have made because he hadn't earned it and it put Dallas in the situation of having to get something done with him this year.

Earned it? I'd say he outperformed his contract. I agree not signing him long term last season was a mistake though.
 

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Yeah, "earned".

He wasn't Top 5 at OLB in 2011.

I base contract values on current performance when its hindsight. Spencer earned the money he was paid in 2012. I said as I did this time last year that you were misevaluating him. You have only wanted to keep him on a severe discount. It is what it is.
 

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I base contract values on current performance when its hindsight. Spencer earned the money he was paid in 2012. I said as I did this time last year that you were misevaluating him. You have only wanted to keep him on a severe discount. It is what it is.

If you're going to differentiate "value" versus what he should have been paid prior to this season based solely on this season you're barking up the wrong tree.

Did he earn his money this year? Sure. He played exceptionally better than he ever had. But, given there was nothing to suggest he could even turn his game up in the manner that he did, it was incredibly stupid to even consider paying him that regardless of what the value is on the backend.

The idea that a guy was a "value" because he turned in a season nobody expected or could reasonably expect should be flushed with the idea that the team should pay him again this year.
 

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If you're going to differentiate "value" versus what he should have been paid prior to this season based solely on this season you're barking up the wrong tree.

Did he earn his money this year? Sure. He played exceptionally better than he ever had. But, given there was nothing to suggest he could even turn his game up in the manner that he did, it was incredibly stupid to even consider paying him that regardless of what the value is on the backend.

The idea that a guy was a "value" because he turned in a season nobody expected or could reasonably expect should be flushed with the idea that the team should pay him again this year.

He played better than you thought he ever had because he had double digit sacks. But I recall the conversations that we had last offseason where I said that people had severely undervalued his performance and gave pressures per rush versus sacks per rush. Remember the conversation about how 'almost' is that close to 'Sack?'

You can claim that my position was 'unreasonable' but the proof is in the pudding. Now here we are a year later talking about the same player and once again we are pretty much in the same stances.

He didn't have an appreciable increase in pass rush attempts nor pressures. He just had a better conversion rate as he regressed to the mean. I have no problem being right again while you posture that my stance is 'unreasonable.'
 

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He played better than you thought he ever had because he had double digit sacks. But I recall the conversations that we had last offseason where I said that people had severely undervalued his performance and gave pressures per rush versus sacks per rush. Remember the conversation about how 'almost' is that close to 'Sack?'

I'm sorry but to say he was just "almost" for 5 years doesn't count for shit. Certainly doesn't earn as much money as guys who are better than "almost".

You can claim that my position was 'unreasonable' but the proof is in the pudding. Now here we are a year later talking about the same player and once again we are pretty much in the same stances.

Not quite but close enough I suppose. There are differences but I generally feel that the money spent on him would be better served and do more for the team on the OL, just as I did last year.

He didn't have an appreciable increase in pass rush attempts nor pressures. He just had a better conversion rate as he regressed to the mean. I have no problem being right again while you posture that my stance is 'unreasonable.'

You're right. He didn't have more rush attempts. He had significantly less and while his sacks nearly doubled, it only cost him about 8 pressures compared to 2011. Tell me you're referring to the BTB (or whatever site) article where some guy randomly predicted that Spencer would have more than 6 sacks. Aside from it being a "fuck, I hope so" situation, it's not exactly going out on any sort of limb. That guys' argument was that a sack usually occurs like 25% of the time in terms of pressures or some shit. 8 pressures essentially swaps for how many sacks at that exchange rate? Where did all the other sacks come from?

He rushed way less. Like over 100 times less which represents 25% of his 2011 total and 33% of his 2012 total. That's a shit ton less and yet he did a shit ton more.

Compare 2012 to 2010 and he has like 90 more rushes in 2010 but fewer pressures and half as many sacks.

There is no regressing to the mean. There is just better play.

As far as being right, don't tug your dick too much there. You are the hindsight guy, right? How could you ever be wrong?

Not that I even know what your stance was in the first place. Let me check my journal though, I'm sure I probably wrote it down somewhere.
 

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nickeatman But you're a math minor right?“@toddarcher: Not math major but Cowboys moves created about $23m in room. Puts them about $5m under as of now

5 million under with several other moves pending.
 
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yay we pushed 23 million of real money into future years just to create enough money to sign our draft picks this year!

I bet every team wishes they had a Stephen Jones!
 

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Yeah, we should just release half a dozen or so core players instead. That makes sense.

We might can go 2-14, but at least the cap will fixed!
 
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