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    Bill Bates

    I didn't say it did. His entire FIFTEEN YEAR career in Dallas, does.
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    Bill Bates

    Jimmy Johnson owes his first playoff win to a timely, game sealing Bill Bates pick.
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    Bill Bates

    Well yeah, look at the frikkin names ON that list!
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    Bill Bates

    He had a knack for being in the right place at the right time, exactly when you needed him. If he sucked as a safety, Jimmy wouldn't be playing him as a safety! You know more than Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry?
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    Bill Bates

    If Bill Bates isn't THE embodiment of the Cowboys, who is? I put him right up there with Bob Lilly as far as off the field character goes. He is a honorable man and always was. You already said you wouldn't have a problem with Bates in the RoH and I never called him a "Legend" although he has...
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    Describe the moment you liked tony romo most

    It's alot like Obama - if you disagree with him you're a hater. BBgun isn't a Romo hater. I'm not a Romo hater. We just happen to not be wearing rose colored glasses concerning him, and don't bend over and suck his balls defending him at every turn, blaming everything under the sun for his foibles.
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    Bill Bates

    We are talking about RoH credentials here and Bates is IN the top ten for Dallas Cowboys safeties.
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    Bill Bates

    Hey Man, it's been quoted everywhere. He said it.
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    Bill Bates

    Where? What I said was, they would probably put Romobama in the RoH before Bates, and that would be criminal.
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    Bill Bates

    Top 10: Ranking Best Cowboys Safeties In Franchise History - Dallas Cowboys.com
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    Bill Bates

    No, he is listed as a top ten Dallas SAFETY. Nothing at all to do with his special teams play.
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    Bill Bates

    There wasn't any. A treat just for you: Thanks! One of many game changing plays Bates made. Bate's best years were in the 90s. You never saw him play on Jimmy's teams?
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    Bill Bates

    He said it about Bates too, can't fault Tom for being nearly senile by that time. Doesn't make him wrong.
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    NFL Nation: 4 Downs -- NFC East

    Right. A couple less at crucial times, and a couple less fumbles - and maybe just maybe some more points off the turnovers this worst defense ever kept giving the offense, and yeah. This team is 11-5. It's not a fucking stretch to say that.
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    Bill Bates

    He is in the top ten of all-time Dallas safeties. He didn't just play special teams.
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    Bill Bates

    He is listed in the top ten all time for Dallas safeties, Dallas UDFAs and tied with Tuey and Too Tall for most years played in Dallas. Read the OP - the NFL CREATED A SPOT JUST FOR HIM in the Pro Bowl for fuck's sakes! How many other players have that distinction?
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    NFL Nation: 4 Downs -- NFC East

    You forgot about his back injury? The broken wrist? The hammy? The thigh?
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    NFL Nation: 4 Downs -- NFC East

    They sure could have. Not lucky bounces, just less picks and fumbles at crucial moments. The team isn't all as bad as is generally believed.
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    NFL Nation: 4 Downs -- NFC East

    Ware himself was hurt all season, that's why he wasn't effective.
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    Bill Bates

    Bates wasn't good? C'mon now. The Ring of Honor's actual definition goes like this: "The Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor honors former players, coaches and club officials who made outstanding contributions to the Dallas Cowboys football organization." Bates didn't make outstanding contributions?
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