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I haven't "flinched" at all, and pointing out he is a top ten Dallas safety is just that - has nothing at all to do with being in the RoH it was merely educational for those who continue to underrate Bates due mostly to simply just their own ignorance of his career. It's not my fault people are...

Because Roger was like, the Real Thing and stuff. 4 reals. Not quite as glamorous as Joe Willy's "I guarantee it" commercials but your point is well taken - does Broadway Joe get any endorsements at all if he didn't first make good on his guarantee? Of course not.

Anything like your claim that Parcells was fired?

Or, they created the spot because he was just. that. special at the position. And he was. Nobody's argued he should be in the RoH because of his work at safety. Nobody's said he was even that great of a safety. You've erected a straw man argument here.

First of all you won't delete your account, secondly the real reason Jon doesn't come back is because it was bbgun's ban and it was for damned good reason. He only comes back if bbgun says so. You're not even really on the radar for, anything. But I knew the 'crybaby' comment would get your...

He played in the Nickel in Jimmy's system. His position on the fucking roster was ever and always, "Safety." He made the Pro Bowl and was All-Pro as a special teamer. The NFL created the "special team specialist" roster spot, just FOR Bates.

:laugh3 That's a good one although, that was Jerry not the Tuna.

Kind of like you, posting here is?

The claim was, he was fired. There's nothing to support that at all yet but we do have some evidence at least, to support my assertion.

Just the fact he was SO good for so many years. His character. Washington and Williams didn't play very long.

Whether we agree with it or not, this is true.

Last paragraph. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Parcells#Third_retirement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Parcells#2006 Looks like he is still employed by ESPN.

He was still under contract with ESPN at the SAME TIME he was coaching the Cowboys....

Really? :BSFLAG Link please.

Still trying to process - wrap my mind around - this breaking news that Parcells was fired.

:laugh3 You know Homey don't play that.:rock

That's funny... He opposed Jerry having the "Hard Knocks" show during his camp - the same camp where he told Romo, "I worry about you Tony, you're a China Doll out there" then proceeded to put him in anyway.... He was canned? That's news! You're saying Parcells was FIRED?

I've been told you're too much of a crybaby for me to do that, so...

That's not what you said at all.