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I won't dispute any of this. That's all on the record and is history. But we have no way of knowing nor can we possibly know the outcomes of those games, sans Dez because the situation right from kickoff, is different. Well, you didn't answer my question though. I asked if it is fair to say we...

See, you're dishonest? What you quoted was my response to you saying my greater concern was losing Tony, you called that a straw. It can't be, because I never claimed anyone was arguing that position. Read back. Are you dishonest or just can't hold up your end of the ongoing conversation deal...

LOL Thank you, that was a much welcome belly laugh! Bookmarked!

Is it fair to say we can be 8-8 with or without Dez, or 12-4 with or without Dez? I think it's not only fair but plausible. BECAUSE THAT IS THE NATURE OF THIS LEAGUE. This in no way "devalues" anyone.

And the other side of that pancake? Murray always averaged either high 4s or 5 ypc. What happened when he got more touches? Pablo IMO is exactly such a player. I don't know anyone who ever thought Hambrick was. What's the beef with getting Pablo more receptions? That they might take away from...

But you are NOT entitled to LIE about the opinion. Which is your stock in trade.

Like you're trying to do, INFERRING something that wasn't actually said? Except, this whole thread is full of posts predicting doom and gloom if we lose Dez. Here's one such post. I DID read here somewhere that our offense would collapse without Dez. Not this thread, but some other one. And...

It does NOT. It merely states FACT. YOU are writing the rest of the fanboi nonsense, into it.

I agree with this too and will take this moment to point out, no one's asserted they would be better without him. But I believe is IS possible even if remotely. I simply don't agree with the fanboi hyperbole that the offense "collapses" without him.

It was said right here in this thread, that our offense collapses if Dez isn't in it. I say, "no it won't" and all you fanbois go apeshit, claim I am "devaluing" Desmond, all that stupid shit. That speaks well to how people can't read for comprehension, or just make it say what they want, or...

Therefore, Pablo needs more touches. He is a electrifying player who presents matchup problems for defenses.

You don't understand the difference between something so minor and trivial as anger, and seething hatred? I'm not angry at all.

I do get that. What you don't get is, defenses would have to adjust as the season progresses, they wouldn't know who to try to take away. All our tendencies, the "book" on us, would be out the window. What, you think they would just man-up on us? Nobody does that anymore not even Seattle. If...

I'd use Pablo in the slot closer to the opponent goal line, and inside my own 20. Nothing says Beasley has to come off the field ever, he can be split wide. Matter of fact, so can Pablo. I know, I am asking for something this coaching staff doesn't have - imagination and creativity. I think we...

He's sure as fuck not. He bitches about his "personal life being out there" acting like that wasn't one of his self aggrandizing goals in life. Now trying to play the victim card. Jerruh about had a myocardial infarction passing up this puke dispenser.

I actively, hate this puke. I seethe. Johnny Manziel retires money sign, calls last season a disaster - NFL - SI.com

Bennett never applied himself in Dallas and just didn't progress much at all, like everything they were trying to teach him was going in one ear and out the other. In the "Hard Knocks" series he was on, this was evident and Garrett even said "we're waiting for the light to come on." They waited...

Agreed. I'm also thinking Pablo would be dangerous as a slot receiver. The height, the hands, the speed and hard to tackle, could really give a defense fits.

We can only wish. But it IS true that offense sells tickets, defense wins championships. This particular defense seems to be more following the Jimmy mold than any of Tom's, whose philosophy for the DL was "read and react" and protect the Mike linebacker rather than attack. Today's defense...

No it's not. It is realizing the realities of the NFL. There will still be people catching Tony's passes. It's always happened. If he leaves or goes down with a season ending injury or something, it's not the end of the world. He's not God.