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8-8, 9-7 on the outside.

If true, that skews the results how much? Maybe then medical mistakes are only the number 4 killer of Americans? C'mon now. I was bolstering YOUR point.

Number 3 killer of Americans? Medical mistakes.

Well, the question was "Do you ever wonder what Tony's career would have looked like if he'd had decent coaching at any point past the Parcells years?" and the answer was, "or anything resembling a decent defense" which he hasn't had, for years, even when we score 40 points and punting very little.

Orrrrr, pick 173 (7th round) from the 1991 draft, one Leon Lett who like Gathers, brought notice to himself with basketball prowess. Difference is, none of us can name any such successes under Ginger. We can only point to the work of real coaches in this regard.

He does come with a certain degree of hype, but not alot of it unearned. He's as legit of a wideout as there is in this league. That's not been my concern with him.

Or anything resembling a decent defense?

6 foot 6, 280lbs with long arms, good hands and running the 40 in well under 5 seconds. I can see where he could be scary as a TE in this league.

Except Jerry never paid Fidel 40 million! *slaps knee*

Firing Garrett is the same as admitting he's wrong, something he's never done that I know of.

And that would almost be sell-able to the sports press and the fans. But if they REALLY think they are a 12-4 or better team with designs on the Lombardi trophy or at least a SB appearance, how can anything less be tolerated at this point? You're right that the generational mediocrity has been...

So, if results for 2016 are typical we'll see 8-8 or maybe 9-7. This of course is well below the Jones' expectations. What will happen? Will Jerry finally clean house, get rid of the clapper and most of this loserass staff, and cut ties with a bunch of players? Or will there be some other excuse...

Or a 8-8 team, which is what Dallas actually is. Not terrible, just terribly mediocre.

We don't know that he's a dud just yet. Hasn't seen any significant playing time.

That just scares the living shit out of me, the thought that I might be on any list of yours.

Yep they wanna acquire the rights to some players they're pretty sure they would lose a recruiting war over. They are notorious for lowballing UDFAs. So if it's one they think they like and lots of others do, they spend a late pick hoping he either becomes a star or brings back tenfold in a...

Fight scratch claw. That's the meter.

LOL Must be a fictional future episode then.

Roger that.

I do like Dez's effort on game day. Selling out to run block, drawing at times double coverage, taking some short passes long distance, all that good stuff. I'm not a fan of the person, I just don't like the punkass he is and don't expect his game day performances of the past to exist anymore...