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Don't know myself 100 percent, if that's what he meant either. I made a choice based on the context. Sure we can, and do. Jurors decide when asked then worry if they were right, later. But they all know even if it's just deep down, they don't really KNOW. And I'm talking specifically in the...

Right but, his meter was "you can't really know what's best" and, no one really can. We can make a semi-informed choice based on the evidence, but we can't possibly know.

You wouldn't really..... KNOW. You could make a choice - you could make a half intelligent half informed GUESS. Which is more by half than anyone else could make. But you wouldn't and couldn't really KNOW. For sure.

"Great value picks" sounds too much like Ginger's "moral victories."

It is 100 percent INEFFECTIVE with the #1 rusher in the league standing on the sidelines at critical moments in the game.

And even more rare once their agent gets in their ear.

Wow that's a big improvement for Cleveland over last year. I'd almost take a flier on that.

It was kind of refreshing to have the first draft in many years where making the team "more Romo friendly" wasn't a priority.

Making Ginger coach of the year! LOL

LOL

Yes, hate his last name though. But that's aight.

Thank you. Yep I'm just a ole stick in the mud, meanassed ole skeptic who refuses to pick up the pom-poms.

A tight end named butt. That's got win all over it for dbair!

Are "value picks" anything like "moral victories?"

Our picks just scrrrrrrrreem super bowl. Not.

No idea how this thread got closed, my apologies.

Yeah me too, sounds dumber than a box of flat rocks. But then, that fact alone might be why we liked him for our Legion of Boobs secondary rebuild.

Hopefully he'll buckle down and keep working to improve. Has some upside. At least he's not someone who will have to bulk up a great deal, already sitting real close to that 300 lb mark.

Not disappointed and never said so, just not fired up. We all can't constantly blow sunshine, some of us have to kind of scoff a bit at a slow, kind of fatboy looking DE who couldn't seem to stay on the field until his last year. Gonna be a constant injury boy? Low motor, low motivation? We...

Yeah he might be the second coming of Martin, White or Too Tall. We shall see but I'm just not feeling it.