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Derived dishonestly out of context, of course. And the false accusation was trotted out by Tim Kaine and of course picked up and regurgitated as a mantra: Then, Kaine repeated it at the debate, adding Pence to it. Claimed that Donald Trump and Mike Pence said “all Mexicans are bad.” Never...

The NFL wouldn't have to sue to require standing for the anthem. You clearly don't understand the subject. Instead of name calling and spewing foolishness, educate yourself on what the 1st Amendment really means. It doesn't protect us from each other and it doesn't protect us from an employer -...

It's not at all the same argument and in fact not even related. Kaep's accusation was the owners colluded to keep him not signed. Not that they violated his free speech. Case never went to court - the league settled with him and one other player and it was for under 10 mil total for both. You...

He'll have to have the roof open... 50 percent rule in Texas applies to open air venues. I've always said the roof should always be open except in the most extreme weather conditions. It rankles me that it's typically always closed. Dome team pussification.

That's a copout, brother. I've posted my own views on it in previous threads. Was looking for your honest perspective.

Please explain what YOU think it is.

But it was just fine and all peachy keen when Bill's campaign used it!

It was clear to me, from your original post. That's beside the point I was making.

I actually had this happen to me, in the 7th grade. At the time my mom was married to a Jehovah's Witness, and we kids were ordered to sit and ignore the national anthem and the pledge of allegiance in accordance with the church's practices. One day in the stands during a pep rally in the gym I...

We get to tell them we think they're wrong, it's freedom of speech. Doesn't mean we're correct when we say it. The government can't tell them they're wrong. The constitution limits government action, not private. All except for one amendment. That doesn't mean some of the other kneelers don't...

May or may not be. Both are examples of broad brushing. Two wrongs don't make a right.

But... The whole prayer thing brings up a salient point - if you're okay with kneeling in prayer during the anthem because religous practice is constitutionally guaranteed, then you should have no problem if the kneeling is in protest of injustice! Both are equally protected. Makes me wonder...

He didn't say anything about guessing, he was answering the scenario YOU posted. If YOU are guessing they're praying, that's another matter.

The problem was your broad brushing. Just because people don't support kneeling for the national anthem does NOT necessarily mean they support police brutality and systemic racism. It's not a zero sum equation. They can support one and not the other, or both/neither. It by itself doesn't say...

I love football and will continue to watch and enjoy it at every level. No I don't like a lot of the rule changes or the pussifying of the game, I don't like penalty flags every other play, hell there's a lot of things about it today that I don't like. Same for NASCAR - its identity is all but...

I moved these 18 political posts out of the Garrett embarrassment thread, making this a new topic. Have at it kids.

Those pesky fans!

Yep then it goes away until the turkey day games and the playoffs. Kudos to the networks going back to football instead of giving weekly airtime to the ceremonies. Truly, viewers really don't give 2 shits about that, they're tuning in to see football.

That's a little bit of an eyebrow raiser. 4th or 5th would be more likely at best from what I've seen. Don't know how they're calculating this but they must have given us a lot of points for the new coach and CeeDee.