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Hard telling, unless I was in that situation. But even if I felt threatened, I wouldn't think I had the right to attack you. As for being blameless, even if he was screaming racial obscenities (in theory, we know he wasn't) Martin still wouldn't have the legal right to lay hands on him. So he...

Sure. But again, following somebody is not against the law. Somewhere after a perfectly legal act is where it went haywire. Imo, Martin started the physical altercation. Even if he was scared/pissed he was being followed, he didn't have the right to strike out.

Following somebody is not against the law.

If it could be proven Zim started the physical confrontation, I'd say he's guilty. I don't think he did. Why didn't Martin run home if he was scared? He got away initially, and either waited around or doubled back. Why? If he was as scared as people say he was, why wouldn't he hotfoot it...

You honestly think this thing would have received even a fraction of the attention it has if the dead kid was white and the defendant was black? Seriously? Where is the public outrage for the white kid set on fire by blacks a short time after this Martin/Zimmerman thing happened? Hell, forget...

Oh, so shock value then. And the white people in this thread are racist against blacks, but not hispanics? How convenient.

Just curious. Why do you add - (the dead kid) - Do you think there is anybody that can't make the distinction between the two people? Or is it done just for the shock value?

Be wrong.

Your Jerry hate has clouded your senses. I'm not saying him making money makes him a good or even better owner. I only brought up the money because of your reason for saying Bright sold the team. Because he was out of his element. He lost money every year, so he sold. Jerry makes money, so...

Bright= pockets emptying. Jones= pockets filling. See the difference? And Jerry's had some winning teams. Even after Jimmy. Bum, not so much.

I agree with that. Jerry could be a great owner if he'd just fire himself as GM. He's too ignorant to realize if he'd hire the right people and step back, he'd receive a ton of credit if the team was winning. Look at how much a guy like Rooney or Kraft is lauded.

No. Bright did not give a shit about the football side of things. If he had been losing and still making money, he would not have sold. You thinking he sold because he was out of his element is wrong. He sold because his fortune was slipping away in a hurry trying to finance the team. Just...

I don't agree with that. Bright sold because he was going broke in a quickfasthurry. No other reason. Certainly not because the team was losing. Jerry is bad, but not that bad. At least he'll spend money. Bright was stupid AND cheap.

How did Martin know that Zimmerman had a gun and had called him an asshole over the phone? Or is this just some lame troll attempt? If so, carry on.

Our reception leader only had 15 catches? Damn, no wonder we suck. Michael Irvin had 111 catches in '95.

What has "hitting it rich" gotten them? They haven't won a superbowl since '04, long before Gronkowski and Hernandez made it there. Maybe if they weren't pouring resources into the TE position, they could have made it back during Brady's peak years. He's nearing the end now, and his surplus...

You buy Wilcox's jersey yet, Midswat?

I don't agree with this. At that time, they were still college coaches learning the NFL game. You can't tell me they didn't learn a lot those first few years, which helped them during our run.

Really? Weed doesn't impair your ability to drive a car? Cool.

Ah. I didn't read the article, just going off what was being said here.