The Jerry Jones deathwatch thread

Aggiepride

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You can't fix stupid.


There might be zero correlation, but it’s the look of it.

Correct me because I am not sure. I think the salary cap money comes out of a pool of money. The salary cap money is not Jerry's money. I think there is a collective pool of money that comes from overall revenue and then each team has X amount to spend.

BUT, I think the money that is paid to coaches comes out of the owner's pocket, just like the secretary and janitor are paid.

So Jerry has no problem paying Dak 60 million a year (and there is probably little correlation to how high a QB is paid and which team wins the SB either) because the money is not coming out of how much money he gets to keep, but the coach's salary does.

Those of you who majored in accounting will correct me by stating it is out of organizational revenue yaddah yaddah. I am talking in simple terms. The money for the cap is not money Jerry can keep. The money that goes to the organization/business is money that at the end of the day is being spent by Jerry.
 

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There are exceptions, but Jerry is cherry-picking info to try and help him offset the obvious, that he is too fucking cheap and stupid to pay for quality head coaching.

Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay and John Harbaugh are all either at the top (or were at the to) of the highest paid. Jim Harbaugh is as well.

For the most part (vast majority) the highest paid coaches ARE the most successful and have won more championships or consistently get their teams into deep playoff runs.

He is acting like a spoiled little child who has been called out, and he didnt like it.

This list is top-50 head highest paid coaches (any sport) but it pretty much refutes Jerry's dumbass take.

 

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It's impossible to hear his idiotic gaslighting comments all morning and early afternoon and not wish for the inevitable.

Stuff like this is why this thread exists.

 

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Correct. And unused cap $ doesn't roll over into future years either. Use it or lose it.
I dont think thats accurate, unused cap can be used in future seasons (assuming AI is correct in confirming my opinion):


In the NFL, unused salary cap space can be carried over into the following season. This is called salary cap rollover, and it gives teams additional spending flexibility.
The important part is that teams can roll over 100% of their unused cap space, provided they follow the NFL's required notification procedure.

Example: How salary cap rollover works​

Suppose the Dallas Cowboys finish the 2026 season with $25 million in unused salary cap space.
ItemAmount
2027 NFL base salary cap (hypothetical)$320 million
Unused 2026 cap carried forward+$25 million
Cowboys' adjusted 2027 salary cap$345 million
That means the Cowboys would have a $345 million adjusted cap for 2027, before accounting for any other adjustments.
The rollover doesn't mean they have $345 million available to spend on new players. Existing player contracts, dead money, and other obligations still count against that amount.

Are there restrictions?​

Yes, but they're relatively limited.
  • No rollover percentage limit: Teams can carry forward all unused cap space.
  • Notification deadline: The NFL must receive the team's written notice by 4 p.m. Eastern on the day after its final regular-season game.
  • Minimum spending requirement: Under the current collective bargaining agreement, teams must spend at least 90% of the applicable salary caps in actual cash compensation over the 2024–2026 period. This is different from salary cap accounting.

    Over The Cap+1

Can teams keep accumulating unused cap space?​

Yes. A team can roll unused space forward over multiple consecutive seasons, subject to the annual rollover rules and minimum cash spending requirements.
This creates an interesting strategic advantage: a rebuilding team can preserve cap flexibility and potentially spend substantially more than the league's standard cap in a future season.
Bottom line: Unused NFL salary cap space doesn't automatically disappear at season's end. Teams can preserve it for future years, making cap management a multiyear strategy rather than simply an annual spending limit.
 

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Jerry "I am telling you the sky is not blue!!!!"


I think Jerry's counter argument might be, prove it first and then I'll pay you. I think he would argue that a Sean McVey or an Andy Ried, already proved it.

Jerry has said that he'd like to give coaches a contract that is incentive or bonus based. "Your base salary is 2 million, but get me a SB and I'll give you 10 million."

Bottom line though is that we saw a quality coach in Mike McCarthy (who I had my issues with--nobody is perfect until they win the SB) leave because of money. Money talks.

I don't know how you get someone like Jon Gruden, Kirby Smart, or fill in the blank to come into this shit show and not a) give him the power he wants and, b) give him the compensation to make the workload worth it to them.

Part of the reason Parcells came over was sentimental. He had a connection to Tom Landry, who helped Parcells as a young coach.
 

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I dont think thats accurate, unused cap can be used in future seasons (assuming AI is correct in confirming my opinion):


In the NFL, unused salary cap space can be carried over into the following season. This is called salary cap rollover, and it gives teams additional spending flexibility.
The important part is that teams can roll over 100% of their unused cap space, provided they follow the NFL's required notification procedure.

Example: How salary cap rollover works​

Suppose the Dallas Cowboys finish the 2026 season with $25 million in unused salary cap space.
ItemAmount
2027 NFL base salary cap (hypothetical)$320 million
Unused 2026 cap carried forward+$25 million
Cowboys' adjusted 2027 salary cap$345 million
That means the Cowboys would have a $345 million adjusted cap for 2027, before accounting for any other adjustments.
The rollover doesn't mean they have $345 million available to spend on new players. Existing player contracts, dead money, and other obligations still count against that amount.

Are there restrictions?​

Yes, but they're relatively limited.
  • No rollover percentage limit: Teams can carry forward all unused cap space.
  • Notification deadline: The NFL must receive the team's written notice by 4 p.m. Eastern on the day after its final regular-season game.
  • Minimum spending requirement: Under the current collective bargaining agreement, teams must spend at least 90% of the applicable salary caps in actual cash compensation over the 2024–2026 period. This is different from salary cap accounting.

    Over The Cap+1

Can teams keep accumulating unused cap space?​

Yes. A team can roll unused space forward over multiple consecutive seasons, subject to the annual rollover rules and minimum cash spending requirements.
This creates an interesting strategic advantage: a rebuilding team can preserve cap flexibility and potentially spend substantially more than the league's standard cap in a future season.
Bottom line: Unused NFL salary cap space doesn't automatically disappear at season's end. Teams can preserve it for future years, making cap management a multiyear strategy rather than simply an annual spending limit.
I think it can. it's how a team like New England ended up with a war chest of something like 130 million.

Each year we read about Team X being X amount under the cap. Well that can't happen if all the money has been spent.
 

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Mike McCarthy (who I had my issues with--nobody is perfect until they win the SB) leave because of money. Money talks.
He walked away with a year left on his deal and took a year off again. Pittsburgh paying him more? I think he merely grew weary of the clown show.
 

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He walked away with a year left on his deal and took a year off again. Pittsburgh paying him more? I think he merely grew weary of the clown show.
He never recovered from the Green Bay playoff debacle, and then got sandbagged by Jerry who promised to be "all in."
 

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I think Jerry's counter argument might be, prove it first and then I'll pay you. I think he would argue that a Sean McVey or an Andy Ried, already proved it.

Jerry has said that he'd like to give coaches a contract that is incentive or bonus based. "Your base salary is 2 million, but get me a SB and I'll give you 10 million."

Bottom line though is that we saw a quality coach in Mike McCarthy (who I had my issues with--nobody is perfect until they win the SB) leave because of money. Money talks.

I don't know how you get someone like Jon Gruden, Kirby Smart, or fill in the blank to come into this shit show and not a) give him the power he wants and, b) give him the compensation to make the workload worth it to them.

Part of the reason Parcells came over was sentimental. He had a connection to Tom Landry, who helped Parcells as a young coach.
McCarthy didnt leave over money, he left because they only wanted to give him a 3yr deal.

And McCarthy was not paid bottom of the barrel money his 5 yrs here either.

I don't recall Parcells coming here over anything to do with Landry at all. He came back for the money, he needed it and it was well documented at the time. Jones needed Parcells to help get support for his bullshit stadium. They were a match made in hell for all the wrong reasons. Parcells helped change the complete flop of a scouting department they had but he was a shell of his former self as a gameday coach.
 

dbair1967

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He walked away with a year left on his deal and took a year off again. Pittsburgh paying him more? I think he merely grew weary of the clown show.
McCarthy did not have time left on his deal. He signed a 5yr contract in 2020 and coached 5 seasons.

The Cowboys had an exclusive negotiating period with him after that 2024 season, they dragged it out before making a decision on his future.

But McCarthy did not leave with any time or money left on his contract.
 
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