The One Big Ass Parsons Trade Tracker

[Doomsday]

After 1 week, maybe.

Honestly not many teams looked all that "great. The Colts had the most dominant win of the week.

Pack has a talented young team, no doubt. They also played an opponent who just lost both coordinators and started 3 new interior OL, one of them was a rookie, one was a 2nd yr player who never started and the 3rd is some 30-something yr old who almost nobody had ever heard of.

Was referring to the GB roster, they have dudes at every position. The game win itself wasn't really all that impressive to me, for the reasons you cite. Don't offhand know which other NFC teams besides Philadelphia that match up to this GB roster

 

[Scot]

Happy to bet whatever you want on that...GB isnt winning 3 titles in 4 yrs now

We also got far more for Parsons than we gave up to Niners for Haley

They may not win 3 in 4 years. But they sure as hell got better by a long shot.

After two games the Packers Defense is looking pretty fucking unstoppable.

4 sacks and 12 hits last night on JD

This trade will come back and bite us in the ass for sure!

 

[dbair1967]

After two games the Packers Defense is looking pretty fucking unstoppable.

hey they look great....they call some sort of flag in his favor multiple times a game like that now...

more penalties in his favor last night than the entire 2023 season in Dallas

Says all you need to know

 

[icup]

 

[Scot]

hey they look great....they call some sort of flag in his favor multiple times a game like that now...

more penalties in his favor last night than the entire 2023 season in Dallas

Says all you need to know

The Packers 8 sacks in two games tells me what I need to know

Not that they can keep it up

But if they could they are on pace for 136 sacks for the season.

 

[dbair1967]

The Packers 8 sacks in two games tells me what I need to know

Not that they can keep it up

But if they could they are on pace for 136 sacks for the season.

Is this like California math or something? Same methodology for Biden to get to 81 million votes?

8/2= 4

4x17= 68

Also fyi, Packers were 6th in the league in sacks last yr without Parsons.

 

[Doomsday]

The thing is yeah you can't replace a Parsons but we knew in 1989 you can't replace Hershel Walker but in both instances, we're not trying to! They're both worth more to us longer term than what we gotta pay them.

Cut the fat max the muscle.... Parsons gonna flame out you watch - while Clowney eats....

 

[dbair1967]

So, wah baby got what he wanted, and he's mad because Jones didnt call him or want to sit down with him?

 

[Doomsday]

Cowturd was with us on this the entire time right? This after we made Parsons the invisible man on national TV

 

[Doomsday]

Cowturd was with us on this the entire time right? This after we made Parsons the invisible man on national TV

The invisible sack for the invisible man.

 

[Aggiepride]

The invisible sack for the invisible man.

My theory was that by 2027 the Packers would be a mediocre team because of Parsons' contract. They will need to unload players.

Unfortunately, the Jets will now get that pick if the Packers end up worse than Dallas. Nobody can foresee the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be top 10.

 

[Dodger12]

My theory was that by 2027 the Packers would be a mediocre team because of Parsons' contract. They will need to unload players.

Unfortunately, the Jets will now get that pick if the Packers end up worse than Dallas. Nobody can foresee the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be top 10.

The first and second rounders we gave up weren't worth it for the player. And if you can't hit on a DT with the first two picks, you need to change your talent evaluation team. It's a bad, bad trade.

 

[Aggiepride]

The first and second rounders we gave up weren't worth it for the player. And if you can't hit on a DT with the first two picks, you need to change your talent evaluation team. It's a bad, bad trade.

I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds contradictory. Yes, the compensation was appropriate for the player, but draftign a DT is a separte issue.

I will argue until I'm blue in the face that Mazi was not a first round talent. So boo to Jerry and the team for that one.

But, for example, had we had the opportunity to draft Jalen Carter, then I think Jerry and company would have done so.

I have only very casually looked at this upcoming draft, so I can't say for sure, but usually there is at least one consensus stud DT.

So, IMHO, the real way to judge this draft is to see who we could have taken had we finished with say the 10th pick in the draft buy NOT adding Williams and Wilson. Or even who we might've taken had repackaged both number one picks and moved up.

That player would be here for the next 4 years cheaper than Williams, allowing the savings to be used elsewhere.

We gave up a 7th for Wilson, so I'm not going to argue that.

But with two number ones, I don't think it would have been too hard to pick up a legit DT and a legit LB (trade back, pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd, get creative).

I admit that I am talking out of both sides of my mouth on this one. It's clear that Williams can still play. We played against him only a couple of weeks ago, or so. So there's little danger that he turns out to be a "Roy Williams (WR) type of trade, in which Roy lost it seemingly overnight.

So I am on the fence. Only time will tell. If it were me, I would not have made the trade because I'm looking at the standings, and I'm looking at several teams ahead of us in the wildcard race, and I see the only real way to make the playoffs is to have Philadelphia collapse and thus win every single game. Unless all the other teams ahead of us collapse.

So really, we have Williams for two years and then he will need to be franchised, given a raise, or he will go to the highest bidder.

 

[Doomsday]

lol

 

[Aggiepride]

Who is this Drew Mestemaker that I am suddenly hearing about? Apparently, he's got Patrick Mahomes' personal private QB coach working with him. This coach says Drew is a first round QB and his throwing form is so perfect that his arm never gets sore. He throws 180+ times in a row and no soreness.

Apparently the kid didn't start a single game in high school and he is being called the next Tom Brady.

I'm really not at all into college ball. I don't bother to know players until around draft time. That's when I devour the scouting reports and make my best guesses, which I dare say seem to be right more often than the professionals over in Dallas.

Anyone see this Drew Mestemaker play? Am I falling for some Internet bullshit? He's currently at North Texas, basically our back yard.

 

[Dodger12]

I'm not sure I understand your point. It sounds contradictory. Yes, the compensation was appropriate for the player, but draftign a DT is a separte issue.

My point isn't contradictory at all. The compensation was not appropriate for the player....not by a long shot. We gave up a high first round (and second round) pick for a 28 year old player with 2 years left on his contract for immediate help in what's essentially a lost season. When we get pasted again on D you're all going to be wondering why....but I won't. Because our talent issue is #2 behind our scheme and DC issue. The coaches have lost the players on D.

But if we're going to be honest, this move was as much about Dak than it was the D. Jerry doesn't want to throw away the remaining years of Dak's contract without attempting to be "competitive." The Cowboys still go to the bank with a brinks truck and keep the fans haning for one more season. Wash, rinse and repeat.

 

[dbair1967]

Who is this Drew Mestemaker that I am suddenly hearing about? Apparently, he's got Patrick Mahomes' personal private QB coach working with him. This coach says Drew is a first round QB and his throwing form is so perfect that his arm never gets sore. He throws 180+ times in a row and no soreness.

Apparently the kid didn't start a single game in high school and he is being called the next Tom Brady.

I'm really not at all into college ball. I don't bother to know players until around draft time. That's when I devour the scouting reports and make my best guesses, which I dare say seem to be right more often than the professionals over in Dallas.

Anyone see this Drew Mestemaker play? Am I falling for some Internet bullshit? He's currently at North Texas, basically our back yard.

There's some stuff to like (size, arm talent) but he's far from a sure thing and he definitely isn't in the NFL Tom Brady universe yet.

The scheme leads to many easy dink and dunk throws or throws to the sideline. He also looks like the typical college QB now where it's basically one read and throw.

 

[dbair1967]

My theory was that by 2027 the Packers would be a mediocre team because of Parsons' contract. They will need to unload players.

Unfortunately, the Jets will now get that pick if the Packers end up worse than Dallas. Nobody can foresee the future, but I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be top 10.

The 2027 season will have no impact on what pick the Jets get in this trade.

The options were picks in the 26 or 27 draft. It's a 2026 2nd rd pick and a 2027 1st rd pick. The 2027 season won't take place until after that.

That said, most people expect the Packers to be fairly decent for awhile. Like us, they have one of the younger rosters in the league.

 

[dbair1967]

The first and second rounders we gave up weren't worth it for the player. And if you can't hit on a DT with the first two picks, you need to change your talent evaluation team. It's a bad, bad trade.

Finding high end DTs is not easy, there's a pretty high miss rate league wide on that. Finding decent starters is much easier, but impact DT's are pretty unique.

Quinnen Williams was the 3rd pick overall and 100% justified his draft position with his play on the field.

The other way to think of it is this, would the 2nd rd pick in 2026 and the 1st rd in 2027 net the 3rd overall pick in a trade? Highly unlikely. On the draft pick value chart the 2027 1st would be seen as a 2nd.

 

[dbair1967]

My point isn't contradictory at all. The compensation was not appropriate for the player....not by a long shot. We gave up a high first round (and second round) pick for a 28 year old player with 2 years left on his contract for immediate help in what's essentially a lost season. When we get pasted again on D you're all going to be wondering why....but I won't. Because our talent issue is #2 behind our scheme and DC issue. The coaches have lost the players on D.

But if we're going to be honest, this move was as much about Dak than it was the D. Jerry doesn't want to throw away the remaining years of Dak's contract without attempting to be "competitive." The Cowboys still go to the bank with a brinks truck and keep the fans haning for one more season. Wash, rinse and repeat.

You don't know if we gave up a high 1st rd pick yet, you are just speculating. The Jets get their choice of our pick in 2027 or the Packers pick. For all anyone knows both those picks might be in the 20's. I think ultimately it was smart for them to do the deal the way they did. This years record is likely to be worse than next years so had they done the 2026 1st and 2027 2nd, there was the potential that we gave away a fairly early pick. (maybe even top-10)

He's going to be really good for awhile and unless he gets a catastrophic injury he will certainly get a contract extension and low cap charge for the next couple seasons.

If he was a 1 yr rental this would have been a bad trade, but he isn't a 1yr rental and is universally regarded as one of the best players in the league at his position.