Who Here is Not Entirely Sold on Dak Prescott?

[dbair1967]

The rest of that coaching staff should be gone. I’d be surprised if they don’t draft another QB. They will have options that are better than Haskins. And if Haskins actually turns out to be a player they can trade one of them. Either way the new coach would have options.


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Like I replied to BB, the guy that was just fired as HC reportedly didn't want Haskins, none of that staff did. He's there because the owner wanted him.

 

[Scot]

Dak is no longer Dink and Dunk Dak

He’s in the talks for league MVP

His mechanics are much better than they were last season

He seems to have answered most of the questions we all had about him going into this season

So I’m curious to see how everyone feels about extending Dak now that he appears to have turned what were weaknesses before this season into strengths

 

[Doomsday]

Seeing the results of his hard work and dedication to improve, if I were the GM I'd not be playing hardball with him trying to extend my bargain. We've gotten 4 years cheap. Life expectancy of QBs these days is 12 years or more. Finding one isn't easy. He's holding all the cards at this point. Unless his demands are ridiculous I don't see anything barring a new deal.

We're getting married to him.

 

[icup]

dak is a great leader and would probably do something nice to this teams new head coach. maybe send him a fruit basket on his first day

 

[MrB]

Seeing the results of his hard work and dedication to improve, if I were the GM I'd not be playing hardball with him trying to extend my bargain. We've gotten 4 years cheap. Life expectancy of QBs these days is 12 years or more. Finding one isn't easy. He's holding all the cards at this point. Unless his demands are ridiculous I don't see anything barring a new deal.

We're getting married to him.

I still think that it’s Dak that is holding all of this up. I think if he were willing to take $35 mil right now that Jerry and Stephen would sign him. They are all expecting a huge jump in the salary cap and Dak might be looking for something north of $40 mil a season.


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[icup]

I still think that it’s Dak that is holding all of this up. I think if he were willing to take $35 mil right now that Jerry and Stephen would sign him. They are all expecting a huge jump in the salary cap and Dak might be looking for something north of $40 mil a season.


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The Cowboys’ lack of foresight to set the market before the Carson Wentz deal with Prescott cost them an opportunity to extend their franchise quarterback at a discount. They balked at paying him more than $30 million per year, and because Prescott called the team’s bluff, bet on himself, and is playing at an MVP-caliber level this season, the front office has lost all the leverage.

Prescott’s leap of faith will likely earn him an extra $10 million per year, making him the highest-paid quarterback in NFL history, and make no mistake, his production on the field shows he deserves every cent of that contract. He has become the face of this Dallas Cowboys team, and it is time to recognize him as such.



link:

MVP Money: The Story Of Dak Prescott Betting On Himself | The Draft Network

Since becoming the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys as a rookie, Dak Prescott has been vie...

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[theoneandonly]

Dak at 20 mil still does a lot more for me than Dak at 35 mil. We all know where this is headed though.

 

[Doomsday]

“The only thing I care about is wins."

Not golf, not Cabo before a big playoff game. Not "having fun." Wins.

THIS is the QB you need, assholes.

Dak Prescott on MVP chatter: This game is about winning, not awards

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[yimyammer]

“The only thing I care about is wins."

Not golf, not Cabo before a big playoff game. Not "having fun." Wins.

THIS is the QB you need, assholes.

Dak Prescott on MVP chatter: This game is about winning, not awards

Getty Images Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips called Lamar Jackson the NFL’s MVP on Thursday, and the Ravens quarterback has the best current odds to win the award. Russell Wilson is a close second. But Vegas missed on the candidate who should have the third-best odds. It’s not Aaron...

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I mean, you just cant not ike this guy and want him to win. If he was serious about winning tho, he'd get the hell out of Dallas because you can only go so far playing jeri-ball

 

[MrB]

The Cowboys’ lack of foresight to set the market before the Carson Wentz deal with Prescott cost them an opportunity to extend their franchise quarterback at a discount. They balked at paying him more than $30 million per year, and because Prescott called the team’s bluff, bet on himself, and is playing at an MVP-caliber level this season, the front office has lost all the leverage.

Prescott’s leap of faith will likely earn him an extra $10 million per year, making him the highest-paid quarterback in NFL history, and make no mistake, his production on the field shows he deserves every cent of that contract. He has become the face of this Dallas Cowboys team, and it is time to recognize him as such.



link:

MVP Money: The Story Of Dak Prescott Betting On Himself | The Draft Network

Since becoming the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys as a rookie, Dak Prescott has been vie...

thedraftnetwork.com

In spite of their lack of foresight, did the Jones’ motivate Dak into becoming an MVP?


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[CouchCoach]

I want to see Prescott under attack before I think he can be a consistent tier 1 QB. He's had an inordinately long time in the pocket to set his feet and make the throws. When the pocket has collapsed has been when he's struggled and not protected the ball well.

However, they will pay him and he will be QB1. They would have already done it. It's not the $, it's the years.

 

[spiderfan_MJ]

They were cancers because they were me-first guys that wrecked the lockerroom, not because they werent Garrett guys.

Gee I dunno, maybe you had heard but Owens wrecked lockerrooms everywhere he went during his career? Pretty sure the rest of the world got that.

Dez didn't apply himself the way he should have. If he would have dedicated himself to learning all the nuances of playing WR he could have been a HoF type talent, but he didn't. he was a mediocre route runner his entire career.

T.O. caused problems in other places that is true. What is also true is that T.O. also said is that Garrett leaked bad stuff about him in the media to make him look bad. Being that Garrett is a tool who thinks he is the best coach ever and has a great locker room culture (featuring guys like Snake Lee) I believe T.O.

As for Dez, route running was NEVER EVER his game. Why? Because he what they call an X receiver. X receivers jobs are to catch 50-50 balls. Go up and get the football. Romo may not have been great, but he understood that dynamic.

Because Dak lacks the arm strength and accuracy to throw 50-50 balls Dez's stats went down. It is actually why I don't like Dak and think he should be replaced at QB. At some point you need a guy who can throw into a tight window and make a play.

 

[kwcoolk619]

T.O. caused problems in other places that is true. What is also true is that T.O. also said is that Garrett leaked bad stuff about him in the media to make him look bad. Being that Garrett is a tool who thinks he is the best coach ever and has a great locker room culture (featuring guys like Snake Lee) I believe T.O.

As for Dez, route running was NEVER EVER his game. Why? Because he what they call an X receiver. X receivers jobs are to catch 50-50 balls. Go up and get the football. Romo may not have been great, but he understood that dynamic.

Because Dak lacks the arm strength and accuracy to throw 50-50 balls Dez's stats went down. It is actually why I don't like Dak and think he should be replaced at QB. At some point you need a guy who can throw into a tight window and make a play.

Dak can't master the back shoulder throw and has no-so-great timing on deep downfield throws.

 

[Dodger12]

Because Dak lacks the arm strength and accuracy to throw 50-50 balls Dez's stats went down. It is actually why I don't like Dak and think he should be replaced at QB. At some point you need a guy who can throw into a tight window and make a play.

You're working your way to my favorites list. I liked your whole post but this part is making me think you're smarter than most of the guys on this board, especially dbair.

 

[Dodger12]

Dak can't master the back shoulder throw and has no-so-great timing on deep downfield throws.

Let's just work on completing a screen to Zeke with the game on the line.......and thank God we play on turf. PITA would be protesting every game for all the worms he's killed.

 

[yimyammer]

I don't know why that dolt dbair gave you a thumbs down....

the truth triggers him

Spoiler: just for you dbair

 

[dbair1967]

Look at his stats with Romo and then Dak. That is the difference.

He was younger and other worldly gifted then, THAT is the difference.

Romo had nothing to do with "making" Dez Bryant, any QB would have seen Bryant post huge numbers early in his career.

But QB's who DEMANDED attention to detail (guys like Aikman, Brady, Payton Manning) would have been all over Bryant's ass to sharpen his skills and do more. Romo never did that because he was happy to be one of the guys and didn't want to rock the boat.

 

[icup]

i may be nitpicking at spiderfan's posts, whicih i mostly agree w/

but,
in his prime, dez would still be effective w/ dak. dez never needed a tight window. he was always more athletic and stronger than the DB's he went up against until injuries and age caught up w/ him

 

[Dodger12]

Romo had nothing to do with "making" Dez Bryant, any QB would have seen Bryant post huge numbers early in his career.

It's comments like these that make you look foolish. Romo, for all his faults, made people a lot of money: Garrett, Dez, Laurent Robinson, Miles Austin, Jerry Jones, among others. He gave Jessie Holley his 15 minutes of fame. You can even argue Cole Beasley. Lead footed Witten is going to the HoF (first ballot) and he may be the slowest TE in Dallas history.

And directly to your point, I like how you qualify your point with "early" in his career. By the time Dak took over, Bryant was 28 years old. He was in his prime. The difference is that one QB was accurate enough to take advantage of what Bryant did well and the other couldn't hit the side of a barn.

 

[Scot]

If I remember correctly didn’t Dak lead the entire league in tight window throws in 2017?

Dak Prescott, Matthew Stafford among top 10 tight-window QBs

Which quarterbacks excel at throwing the ball into tight windows? Dak Prescott's placement in Matt Harmon's top 10 might surprise you -- along with the rest of the list.

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