2015 NFL Week #15: New York Jets (8-5) @ Dallas Cowboys (4-9)

[dbair1967]

Richard Sherman said Dez was an elite player, but what the hell does he know right?

I'm sure he doesn't respect him either.

 

[yimyammer]

I saw at least three times last night, when dez would get stuffed and/or drop passes, the DBs throwing up 'the X' at each other and laughing. They don't respect him. And have very little reason to do so.

He's starting to remind me of TO, not for TOs antics but for how he can get frustrated if he's not involved early and because the D can get in his head by talking shit

 

[Midswat]

Dez is an elite player. To argue otherwise is foolish.

That said, he's having a shit season.

 

[Doomsday]

Richard Sherman said Dez was an elite player, but what the hell does he know right?

I'm sure he doesn't respect him either.

None of them that I have ever seen, has actually SAID anything negative about Dez. But they just laugh and throw up 'the x.' They tell him "get back in yo huddle" after they keep him from chasing down a interception, with trash talk.

Allllll signs of respect, right?

You're deluded. They don't respect him and they don't fear him.

 

[dbair1967]

Dez is an elite player. To argue otherwise is foolish.

That said, he's having a shit season.

I wouldn't dispute that, but he's one of many guys not having a good year. His injury and the play of Cassel is CLEARLY what's holding him back though, not anything else.

 

[Doomsday]

Dez is an elite player. To argue otherwise is foolish.

I don't consider him elite. He has much to prove.

 

[Doomsday]

His injury and the play of Cassel is CLEARLY what's holding him back though, not anything else.

Make up your mind, you now no longer blame the coaching?

As I have said dozens of times, most everything wrong with him is due to it being tolerated.

 

[dbair1967]

You're deluded. They don't respect him and they don't fear him.

Maybe because he is playing on a damaged foot? I mean jeez, the guys lost all sorts of foot quickness and speed.

For a guy nobody fears, he sure does have a history of posting huge numbers.

 

[dbair1967]

Make up your mind, you now no longer blame the coaching?

As I have said dozens of times, most everything wrong with him is due to it being tolerated.

Even with the lousy coaching he's been posting top of the league numbers though, right?

 

[Doomsday]

I mean jeez, the guys lost all sorts of foot quickness and speed.

If he is not rehabbed and able, he shouldn't be out there.

Even with the lousy coaching he's been posting top of the league numbers though, right?

The greatness of Romo?

Just admit he can improve himself and needs to do so, and you won't look so silly. Everyone else can see it. I blame the coaching for letting it go on. But he needs to grow the fuck up and take responsibility himself if the leadership isn't there. He's not twelve.

 

[Midswat]

I don't consider him elite. He has much to prove.

Yeah well, you have a lot of dumb football opinions, so I'm not that surprised.

 

[Doomsday]

Yeah well, you have a lot of dumb football opinions, so I'm not that surprised.

Calling Dez "elite" is a dumb football opinion.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

If only the Cowboy had a WR who could post these kinds of numbers.

Year/Games/Receptions/Targets/Yds Per Reception/Longest/TD's/First Downs
2010 12 45 72 561 12.5 46 6 27
2011 15 63 103 928 14.7 50 9 48
2012 16 92 138 1,382 15.0 85 12 54
2013 16 93 160 1,233 13.3 79 13 67
2014 16 88 138 1,320 15.0 68 16 60

First 50 games for a WR... only Randy Moss and Jerry Rice put up better numbers. BUT DON'T LET THESE FACTS STAND IN THE WAY OF IGNORANCE.

 

[dbair1967]

First 50 games for a WR... only Randy Moss and Jerry Rice put up better numbers. BUT DON'T LET THESE FACTS STAND IN THE WAY OF IGNORANCE.

If he didn't have all those shortcomings that Dooms crows about, he'd probably caught 160 passes for 2500 yds and 30 tds a season

 

[Doomsday]

If he didn't have all those shortcomings that Dooms crows about

Pretend they don't exist. That's fine with me.

 

[dbair1967]

Pretend they don't exist. That's fine with me.

Pretend he doesn't rack up huge numbers

 

[Doomsday]

Pretend he doesn't rack up huge numbers

Never did. Never said otherwise.

All you need do is admit he CAN improve in some areas and needs to. That's all anyone is saying. You act like you're defending a bullied little fat boy.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Calling Dez "elite" is a dumb football opinion.

Well the the NFL is full of GMs, coaches, scouts, and players that have such a dumb opinion, which means you're smarter than all of them.

 

[dbair1967]

Never did. Never said otherwise.

All you need do is admit he CAN improve in some areas and needs to. That's all anyone is saying. You act like you're defending a bullied little fat boy.

Well no shit sherlock...every player in every sport can always improve at something.

I've never acted like he was perfect, I've just said he's a damn good player.

 

[Doomsday]

We meanies who knew there would be a huge dropoff in his production - injuries and QB play notwithstanding - KNOW his faults and foibles. And also know he is the type of personality who WILL just fucking slack off now that he got his big check. And also know the coaching and ownership will allow it.