WTC 7

Midswat · Mar 25, 2013

superpunk said:
All this truther stuff can be debunked EASILY.

Waiting.

superpunk said:
On top of that, if it was true, it's the biggest coverup in history, which is an impossibility.

Why?

superpunk said:
So why would anyone believe any of it?

Because a lot of it doesn't make any sense.

Irving Cowboy · Mar 25, 2013

Midswat said:
Do you think the Patriot Act is/was a good thing?

I'm not saying that.

But I am saying, if this was all a conspiracy to get the Patriot Act in play, it's effect has been negligible at best.

By the way, if it was a conspiracy, there are far too many people involved that would have had to keep their mouths shut for this long. Someone wants to post a video of Bush flubbing a speech, (which happened all the time) and use that as proof of a conspiracy, knock yourself out.

superpunk · Mar 25, 2013

google.com

the same place you found all that retarded shit. just google debunking truthers or something.

You get a coverup that big someone will talk. It's only a matter of time.

Midswat · Mar 25, 2013

Irving Cowboy said:
I'm not saying that.

But I am saying, if this was all a conspiracy to get the Patriot Act in play, it's effect has been negligible at best.

By the way, if it was a conspiracy, there are far too many people involved that would have had to keep their mouths shut for this long. Someone wants to post a video of Bush flubbing a speech, (which happened all the time) and use that as proof of a conspiracy, knock yourself out.

I'm not saying I think the government was behind 9/11. I'm not suggesting they planned the entirety of 9/11. I don't know what level of involvement they played, if any. I'm saying a lot of it doesn't make sense, and I don't trust our government. They've lied to get us to war in the past - wouldn't suprise me if they did so again.

Midswat · Mar 25, 2013

superpunk said:
google.com

Oh. So you got nothing. K.

superpunk said:
the same place you found all that retarded shit. just google debunking truthers or something.

You get a coverup that big someone will talk. It's only a matter of time.

Theres no logical explanation for WTC 7 to fall the way it did.

Since when does burning desks and paper melt steel and cause a sky scraper to collapse in a uniform fashion?

Jon88 · Mar 25, 2013

ThoughtExperiment said:
Again, how did you expect the president to act? To start kicking over chairs, or what?

Do you remember that day at it unfolded, or are you saying this all with the benefit of hindsight?

One thing I do believe was covered up was that 93 was shot down. And I understand why the truth wasn't told there. But if this was all done by the government, why would shooting it down be necessary?

Do something. Jump on Air Force One and get on the phone with the people in charge on Homeland Security. Scramble fighter jets, evacuate the White House.

Anything but sit there reading a stupid fucking book with kindergarteners.

And what I remember from that day, which is waking up in my dorm room that Tuesday morning to the first tower already hit, then seeing the second tower being hit, then seeing the second tower fall, then going to class, etc. has nothing to do with anything we're arguing.

superpunk · Mar 25, 2013

Midswat said:
Oh. So you got nothing. K.

Theres no logical explanation for WTC 7 to fall the way it did.

Since when does burning desks and paper melt steel and cause a sky scraper to collapse in a uniform fashion?

Since physics, ******.

Stop taking your opinions from youtube videos and do some actual research.

Midswat · Mar 25, 2013

superpunk said:
Since physics, ******.

Ah... no.

Nice try though?

Irving Cowboy · Mar 25, 2013

I'm on the same side as SP.

Please don't violate me.

superpunk · Mar 25, 2013

Midswat said:
Ah... no.

Nice try though?

remember that time someone else watched "Fat, Lazy and Nearly Dead" and you started juicing because of it?

This is alot like that.

Midswat · Mar 25, 2013

superpunk said:
remember that time someone else watched "Fat, Lazy and Nearly Dead" and you started juicing because of it?

This is alot like that.

Still got nothing, I see.

brb gonna go set some printer paper at the base of the Statue of Liberty and take that fucker to the ground

superpunk · Mar 25, 2013

That's alot like a massive plane filled with jet fuel.

Jon88 · Mar 25, 2013

superpunk said:
That's alot like a massive plane filled with jet fuel.

Which still won't make a massive structure freefall to the ground.

You have to take out the base of the buildings as well as the middle and up from there to get the buildings to collapse the way they did. Last time I checked, the planes hit at the top of them. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure that's where they hit.

You have to be a special ****** to believe jet fuel made a building implode on itself.

Midswat · Mar 25, 2013

superpunk said:
That's alot like a massive plane filled with jet fuel.

A massive plane filled with jet fuel didn't crash into WTC 7.

superpunk · Mar 25, 2013

Jon88 said:
Which still won't make a massive structure freefall to the ground.

You have to take out the base of the buildings. Last time I checked, the planes hit at the top of them. I'll look again, but I'm pretty sure that's where they hit.

Keep basing your "common sense" analysis of the fall by your observations of how Jenga towers fall.

Jon88 · Mar 25, 2013

superpunk said:
Keep basing your "common sense" analysis of the fall by your observations of how Jenga towers fall.

I use common sense and evidence. You use "Well this makes me feel better anyway..."

superpunk · Mar 25, 2013

No, I use "this is what actually fucking happened."

Has nothing to do with how it makes me feel. I could believe your bullshit story tomorrow and it doesn't change my life one bit. But there's no point to it because your story is such far-fetched bullshit. All your claims, and problems with how the buildings fell are easily, easily, EASILY debunked. It takes two seconds on google. But you want to believe this conspiracy bullshit because...why exactly? What the fuck are you going to do about it, even if it's true?

Occams razor this shit.

Jon88 · Mar 25, 2013

It just takes Google.

ThoughtExperiment · Mar 25, 2013

Jon88 said:
Do something. Jump on Air Force One and get on the phone with the people in charge on Homeland Security. Scramble fighter jets, evacuate the White House.

Anything but sit there reading a stupid fucking book with kindergarteners.

You're right, the fact that he didn't immediately run out of there like a lunatic with a dozen uzi-wielding secret service men means it was an inside job.

And what I remember from that day, which is waking up in my dorm room that Tuesday morning to the first tower already hit, then seeing the second tower being hit, then seeing the second tower fall, then going to class, etc. has nothing to do with anything we're arguing.

It matters because I watched it all live (beyond the second tower) and there was plenty of coverage of Bush's reaction. It wasn't unusual at all. This isn't some Hollywood action movie -- there is such a thing as keeping your cool under pressure, not overreacting like a panicked teenage girl. It's part of being the President.

So what's the truther theory on 93 being shot down? Just to make the coverup look more credible or what?

Midswat · Mar 25, 2013

~claims it takes 2 second to debunk~

~prefers to debate with nothing more than witty one liners instead of actually backing up claims that it takes 2 seconds to debunk~

Explain WTC 7.

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