THE NFL GAMBLING RIG TRACKER

[dbair1967]

I didn't even realize this had happened until I was perusing Twitter/X.

This is pathetic. There's absolutely no question the NFL is in cahoots with Vegas/Online Sports Books, and this shit has been going on a long time. It comes in all shapes and sizes, but this is yet another prime example.

I'm sure somebody will try to say "yeah they need the FG to get it to a one score game" but how are they going to kick a 46 yd FG with 5 seconds left and still have any time for an onside kick and subsequent TD? Did they think time was magically coming back on the clock?

RIGGED

 

[English Cowboy]

I didn't even realize this had happened until I was perusing Twitter/X.

This is pathetic. There's absolutely no question the NFL is in cahoots with Vegas/Online Sports Books, and this shit has been going on a long time. It comes in all shapes and sizes, but this is yet another prime example.

I'm sure somebody will try to say "yeah they need the FG to get it to a one score game" but how are they going to kick a 46 yd FG with 5 seconds left and still have any time for an onside kick and subsequent TD? Did they think time was magically coming back on the clock?

RIGGED

And the moral of the story is - don't gamble on sports that you know are rigged. Or better still - just don't gamble at all.

 

[dbair1967]

don't gamble on sports that you know are rigged. Or better still - just don't gamble at all.

There's going to be some very aggressive attorneys who start thinking about all the potential $$$$$ they can win in a class action lawsuit.

It's going to happen at some point.

 

[yimyammer]

I didn't even realize this had happened until I was perusing Twitter/X.

This is pathetic. There's absolutely no question the NFL is in cahoots with Vegas/Online Sports Books, and this shit has been going on a long time. It comes in all shapes and sizes, but this is yet another prime example.

I'm sure somebody will try to say "yeah they need the FG to get it to a one score game" but how are they going to kick a 46 yd FG with 5 seconds left and still have any time for an onside kick and subsequent TD? Did they think time was magically coming back on the clock?

RIGGED

Do you think the NFL is betting on their own games?

Sports books just try to get action even on both sides, they don’t care who wins so the only way this would matter to them is if the NFL is in cahoots with the sports books and there was a heavy imbalance of action on the bets that would’ve benefited by a 10 point win for Denver.

 

[Doomsday]

We've been talking about it so here we are - dedicated thread for us to post incidents evidence and speculation, opinions.

 

[Doomsday]

And the moral of the story is - don't gamble on sports that you know are rigged. Or better still - just don't gamble at all.

You're a great DC historian so maybe you remember if I'm remembering right - but wasn't there a game where Tom Landry was lambasted for "running up the score" with an extra TD pass while well in the lead and only 20 seconds or something like that left to play? Turned out the points were NEEDED for a playoff tiebreaker Tom knew about going into the game!

I don't think point differential is a tiebreaker anymore though, so no it couldn't explain this latest... Don't know what else could explain it.

 

[Doomsday]

Google AI can't explain it either lol

 

[dbair1967]

Do you think the NFL is betting on their own games?

Sports books just try to get action even on both sides, they don’t care who wins so the only way this would matter to them is if the NFL is in cahoots with the sports books and there was a heavy imbalance of action on the bets that would’ve benefited by a 10 point win for Denver.

There's some of it that probably comes from the NFL side.

A lot of it comes from their employees (the officials and players). The NFL is UNDOUBTEDLY aware of this, which will make them complicit.

In this case, there needs to be some serious research/investigation into the official who threw the fairly ridiculous 15 yd penalty flag (which also stopped the clock)

This isn't rocket science. It's painfully obvious what's going on. Over/Under betting is HUGE money.

 

[Doomsday]

Over/Under betting is HUGE money

So is the point spread.

 

[dbair1967]

You're a great DC historian so maybe you remember if I'm remembering right - but wasn't there a game where Tom Landry was lambasted for "running up the score" with an extra TD pass while well in the lead and only 20 seconds or something like that left to play? Turned out the points were NEEDED for a playoff tiebreaker Tom knew about going into the game!

I don't think point differential is a tiebreaker anymore though, so no it couldn't explain this latest... Don't know what else could explain it.

I dont remember the Landry game you mention but IIRC there was one. I think it was a game in 1979 with the Bears where they ended up with a higher pts differential and made the playoffs.

 

[Doomsday]

I dont remember the Landry game you mention but IIRC there was one. I think it was a game in 1979 with the Bears where they ended up with a higher pts differential and made the playoffs.

Significant write-up about it in the DC weekly as I seem to remember. And I think it was Danny White at QB?

 

[English Cowboy]

You're a great DC historian so maybe you remember if I'm remembering right - but wasn't there a game where Tom Landry was lambasted for "running up the score" with an extra TD pass while well in the lead and only 20 seconds or something like that left to play? Turned out the points were NEEDED for a playoff tiebreaker Tom knew about going into the game!

I don't think point differential is a tiebreaker anymore though, so no it couldn't explain this latest... Don't know what else could explain it.

Whenever you dominate for as long as Landry did, you are occasionally going to get accused of running up the score.

The only game I recall the Cowboys actually having to chase points was the 1980 season finale, where they had to beat the Eagles by at least 18 points to snatch the division off them on points differential. And they were 35-10 up in the 4th Quarter before the Eagles scored 17 points late on to take the division. That would come back to haunt the Cowboys as they would later have to travel to Philly for the NFC Championship game, which they lost.

 

[Doomsday]

Whenever you dominate for as long as Landry did, you are occasionally going to get accused of running up the score.

The only game I recall the Cowboys actually having to chase points was the 1980 season finale, where they had to beat the Eagles by at least 18 points to snatch the division off them on points differential. And they were 35-10 up in the 4th Quarter before the Eagles scored 17 points late on to take the division. That would come back to haunt the Cowboys as they would later have to travel to Philly for the NFC Championship game, which they lost.

I do remember the 18 points needed to win by and now I definitely remember that game too.

 

[yimyammer]

There's some of it that probably comes from the NFL side.

A lot of it comes from their employees (the officials and players). The NFL is UNDOUBTEDLY aware of this, which will make them complicit.

In this case, there needs to be some serious research/investigation into the official who threw the fairly ridiculous 15 yd penalty flag (which also stopped the clock)

This isn't rocket science. It's painfully obvious what's going on. Over/Under betting is HUGE money.

I agree individuals are and will continue being manipulated and doing things to effect outcomes. I can see the NFL keeping a lid on this as much as possible but I don't believe the league is gambling on games and/or manipulating outcomes live in order to cover lines, its too tedious considering how many sports books and lines there are (that change all the way up to kick-off).

If the NFL was finding a way to place bets on games where they control the outcome, it would be tough to get enough action to make it worth their while not to mention bookmakers aren't stupid, have massive databases and statistics that would quickly show they had a "gambler" winning well outside of the highest expectation

There's a book about a huge bettor who had to use "mules" to get his bets down because Vegas won't take bets from successful sports gambling. The author gets to be one of his mules and writes all about it, it's almost 20 years old so I can only imagine how much more difficult it is now. Its a fun read and I recommend it:

The Smart Money: How the World's Best Sports Bettors Beat the Bookies Out of Millions

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A riveting inside look at the lucrative world of professional high-stakes sports betting by a journalist who lived a secret life as a key operative in the world's most successful sports gambling ring.

When journalist Michael Konik landed an interview with Rick "Big Daddy" Matthews, the largest bet he'd placed on a sporting event was $200. Konik, an expert blackjack and poker player, was no stranger to Vegas. But Matthews was in a different league: the man was rumored to be the world's smartest sports bettor, the mastermind behind "the Brain Trust," a shadowy group of gamblers known for their expertise in beating the Vegas line. Konik had heard the word on the street -- that Matthews was a snake, a conniver who would do anything to gain an edge. But he was also brilliant, cunning, and charming. And when he asked Konik if he'd like to "make a little money" during the football season, the writer found himself seduced . . .

So began Michael Konik's wild ride as an operative of the elite Brain Trust. In The Smart Money, Konik takes readers behind the veil of secrecy shrouding the most successful sports betting operation in America, bypassing the myths and the rumors, going all the way to its innermost sanctum. He reveals how they -- and he -- got rich by beating the Vegas lines and, ultimately, the multimillion-dollar offshore betting circuit. He details the excesses and the betrayals, the horse-trading and the paranoia, that are the perks and perils of a lifestyle in which staking inordinate sums of money on the outcome of a single event -- sometimes as much as $1 million on a football game -- is a normal part of doing business.