The HoF Belechick snub

[dbair1967]

 

[Dodger12]

The NFL just keeps shooting itself in the foot. If they weren't insulated from financial loss thanks to TV contracts and seat licenses, they'd be in trouble. To not have BB in the HoF on the first ballot is a travesty and just a joke. But at least they landed Bad Bunny for the SB half time show to keep some legitimacy for their brand.

 

[Doomsday]

The NFL just keeps shooting itself in the foot. If they weren't insulated from financial loss thanks to TV contracts and seat licenses, they'd be in trouble. To not have BB in the HoF on the first ballot is a travesty and just a joke. But at least they landed Bad Bunny for the SB half time show to keep some legitimacy for their brand.

A recent tweak in the HoF rules is the only reason BB was eligible. Normally wouldn't be. This is why your Shula, your Landry, your Lombardi, and yes Jimmy, all had to wait five years.

 

[Scot]

Apparently getting caught, fined, and disciplined twice for cheating throughout your career negates or tarnishes your accomplishments in some voters minds.

Who knew?

Hmmm….

 

[Dodger12]

A recent tweak in the HoF rules is the only reason BB was eligible. Normally wouldn't be. This is why your Shula, your Landry, your Lombardi, and yes Jimmy, all had to wait five years.

I'm talking about eligibility. BB was eligible for the HoF. The dude is a first ballot HoF'er, hands down.

 

[Doomsday]

I'm talking about eligibility. BB was eligible for the HoF. The dude is a first ballot HoF'er, hands down.

Word's been it's due to SpYgAte.

 

[dbair1967]

A recent tweak in the HoF rules is the only reason BB was eligible. Normally wouldn't be. This is why your Shula, your Landry, your Lombardi, and yes Jimmy, all had to wait five years.

Landry went in in 1990, he didnt wait 5 yrs

 

[Doomsday]

Landry went in in 1990, he didnt wait 5 yrs

I stand corrected.

 

[Dodger12]

Word's been it's due to SpYgAte.

Then Brady shouldn't go in first ballot because of Deflate Gate. The whole thing is bogus. Someone didn't like BB and decided to rig the system against him. And I'm also reading BS about "well, he had Brady..." Yes he did....and Jimmy had Troy and Landry had Roger and Noll had Bradshaw....so fucking what. Lame ass bitches. Put a good/great coach with a good/great QB and you have a chance to make history. That goes for any team.

Blocking BB from the HoF is black eye to The Hall and the NFL. Someone should lose their seat at the voting table. This one is simply outrageous and I'm no fan of NE or BB. But you have to be man enough to tip your hat and we've lived through the greatest SB run that may never be duplicated.

 

[dbair1967]

The HoF voting has been a fucking joke for decades. This isn't the first example, it's just the most egregious.

 

[Doomsday]

Then Brady shouldn't go in first ballot because of Deflate Gate. The whole thing is bogus. Someone didn't like BB and decided to rig the system against him. And I'm also reading BS about "well, he had Brady..." Yes he did....and Jimmy had Troy and Landry had Roger and Noll had Bradshaw....so fucking what. Lame ass bitches. Put a good/great coach with a good/great QB and you have a chance to make history. That goes for any team.

Blocking BB from the HoF is black eye to The Hall and the NFL. Someone should lose their seat at the voting table. This one is simply outrageous and I'm no fan of NE or BB. But you have to be man enough to tip your hat and we've lived through the greatest SB run that may never be duplicated.

And now it's Kraft too. Both Kraft and BB still eligible, they're not blocked in any way. They're just sitting in the penalty box for a year. Not seeing any outrage over Kraft for some odd reason.

 

[dbair1967]

And now it's Kraft too. Both Kraft and BB still eligible, they're not blocked in any way. They're just sitting in the penalty box for a year. Not seeing any outrage over Kraft for some odd reason.

he likes his tuggies

 

[Dodger12]

And now it's Kraft too. Both Kraft and BB still eligible, they're not blocked in any way. They're just sitting in the penalty box for a year. Not seeing any outrage over Kraft for some odd reason.

So are we sending in owners because the HC was successful? Jerry is in for his contributions to the game. As much as I hate and despise Jerry, he changed the game for the owners and made them all rich beyond their wildest football dreams. Can we say the same for Kraft? He's a good owner because he allowed his football people to be football people. Not sure that's HoF worthy and nowhere near the snub BB got. It de-legitimizes the NFL and the HoF. They have a permanent black eye and if I were BB, I'd snub the Hall and tell them to pound sand. NFL fans with a fraction of brain function know.........

 

[Doomsday]

So are we sending in owners because the HC was successful

That team was extremely unsuccessful until Kraft bought it. He's won before BB, with BB and now after BB. He's also the guy Goodell turns to out of 31 other billionaire owners, to negotiate the TV and streaming deals. 11 super bowls? That's not just success.

I just never was into pearl clutching. It's reported now that BB missed getting in by one single vote, and they're saying the same for Kraft. I just don't see the problem.

 

[Dodger12]

He's won before BB, with BB and now after BB. He's also the guy Goodell turns to out of 31 other billionaire owners, to negotiate the TV and streaming deals. 11 super bowls? That's not just success.

I just never was into pearl clutching. It's reported now that BB missed getting in by one single vote, and they're saying the same for Kraft. I just don't see the problem.

There has to be a rule around here about drinking and posting. Kraft was .500 or so before BB with a SB appearance. Hardly the stuff of legend. And Parcells left because he couldn't "buy the groceries." And Pete Carroll was a bust.

BB drafted Brady and the rest is history. Whether Kraft got into the Hall or not has nothing to do with BB, Brady or anyone else. They should all be recognized on their merits. BB had the greatest record and SB run of any coach in modern football and it's not even close. Same with Brady at QB. If we have to debate whether the guy is a first ballot HoF'er we all suck. It's really that disgusting a topic.

 

[Doomsday]

There has to be a rule around here about drinking and posting. Kraft was .500 or so before BB with a SB appearance. Hardly the stuff of legend. And Parcells left because he couldn't "buy the groceries." And Pete Carroll was a bust.

BB drafted Brady and the rest is history. Whether Kraft got into the Hall or not has nothing to do with BB, Brady or anyone else. They should all be recognized on their merits. BB had the greatest record and SB run of any coach in modern football and it's not even close. Same with Brady at QB. If we have to debate whether the guy is a first ballot HoF'er we all suck. It's really that disgusting a topic.

Cheating is disgusting too.

 

[dbair1967]

So are we sending in owners because the HC was successful? Jerry is in for his contributions to the game. As much as I hate and despise Jerry, he changed the game for the owners and made them all rich beyond their wildest football dreams. Can we say the same for Kraft? He's a good owner because he allowed his football people to be football people. Not sure that's HoF worthy and nowhere near the snub BB got. It de-legitimizes the NFL and the HoF. They have a permanent black eye and if I were BB, I'd snub the Hall and tell them to pound sand. NFL fans with a fraction of brain function know.........

Well said

 

[dbair1967]

That team was extremely unsuccessful until Kraft bought it. He's won before BB, with BB and now after BB. He's also the guy Goodell turns to out of 31 other billionaire owners, to negotiate the TV and streaming deals. 11 super bowls? That's not just success.

I just never was into pearl clutching. It's reported now that BB missed getting in by one single vote, and they're saying the same for Kraft. I just don't see the problem.

What did he "win" before Belichick?

As for your TV comments, Jerry Jones was the point person on the FOX Deal in 93/94 and this is what opened the flood gates for the NFL to take in billions. Jones also changed the way teams did their own marketing, netting these people bookoos more money (something they vehemently opposed and criticized when Jerry started doing it, now they all do it)

I don't see where Kraft did anything HoF worthy, other than hire Bill Belichick. As Dodger noted, Jones is not in the HoF over anything "football" related, he's in because of what he did to change the league. Kraft has done nothing to change the league.

 

[Dodger12]

Cheating is disgusting too.

Spare me the BS. Will you have the same opinion/stance for Tom Brady when his time comes? It's ludicrous. Brady was fined a million dollars and suspended for 4 games. He was fined for than BB. But I don't care. The guy was the GOAT.

The NFL and HoF has forever tarnished what little reputation it had left. Enjoy Bad Bunny.

 

[Dodger12]

What did he "win" before Belichick?

He won nothing and fell on hard times with Pete Carroll. BB saved that franchise. But Dooms, who we all have internet love for, has cornered himself with his ridiculous argument. I'm willing to bet that he had more vodka delivered last night......