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Very clear from all these videos. He is right in front of her. He doesn't draw his weapon until she starts at him.

 

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And to my Amigo Dodger, I am by no means any type of expert on law enforcement or law enforcement protocols. I would guess the VAST majority (prob 99.% of them, maybe even 100%) wake up every day and hope they never have to draw their weapon.

I just don't know what people expect from them anymore. This is not 1975 or 1985, hell it's not even the early 2000's. These people risk their lives every day to help keep our country and communities safe, and now we have a national party that willingly condones violence against them. They encourage disobedience and then show no remorse when leftists kill a cop, a sheriff or a federal agent. Their followers are dumb fuck sheep who see and hear their rhetoric and think what they are doing is justified.

Officers of all types today have no idea who is just acting like a retard or who truly means to take their life. The left has put them into this absolutely horrible position of having to act in an instant, and these types of situations will no doubt happen and unfortunately probably more often.
 

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Too bad about the woman that was shot by Ice in Minn.
I guess she considered herself a "Sovereign Citizen" and had no need to obey the lawful orders given to her...

Hey, y'all remember the black woman that was shot in her car near the US Capitol Building???

Not much made about that by the LEFT, was there . . .
 

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Before he does that (or even gets near the door) he orders her out of the car, and she refused. It's clearly on the audio.

No doubt. There are reports that the protestor was harassing ICE all day, as well as blocking traffic, so maybe they were going to arrest her. But they didn't try to order her out of the car or at least not that I can see/hear.

Also, the left will attempt to prosecute the officer on the state level. Mark my words. They'll charge him and then the US Attorney's Office will get involved and adopt the case from the locals but it will be a legal battle. The left will do what they can not because of the dead woman....they don't give one fuck about her. But they'll use her death to promote their twisted ideology and try to slow down ICE and the deportations.
 

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He shoots straight at her as she drives towards him. I have no idea which shot actually "killed" her but he is clearly shooting in self defense.

They asked her to get out of the car, she wouldn't.

An officer then tries to open the door, she instead hits the gas and drives right towards another agent.

I don't know what people expect law enforcement to do in this day and time, there's too many examples of extreme left wing violence (and murder) against people on the right and against law enforcement as well. He has every right in the world to defend himself. She's driving a fucking SUV for crying out loud.

If people dont want this stuff to happen, then they need to quit acting like fucking idiots. It's not that fucking hard.

I don't disagree. Not one bit. But I'm just not sure the shooting was necessary. And don't confuse necessary with justified. Again, simply my opinion. If it had been a high speed chase and officers approached and this happened, I'd think completely different. There are factors that come into play that would make me change my mind. But again, it's simply my opinion.

And I agree that these guys have a very, very difficult job in today's environment. Leftist politicians don't give one shit about this lady and they didn't give one shit about George Floyd. They use the situation to promote their twisted agenda and ideology.
 

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And to my Amigo Dodger, I am by no means any type of expert on law enforcement or law enforcement protocols. I would guess the VAST majority (prob 99.% of them, maybe even 100%) wake up every day and hope they never have to draw their weapon.

I just don't know what people expect from them anymore. This is not 1975 or 1985, hell it's not even the early 2000's. These people risk their lives every day to help keep our country and communities safe, and now we have a national party that willingly condones violence against them. They encourage disobedience and then show no remorse when leftists kill a cop, a sheriff or a federal agent. Their followers are dumb fuck sheep who see and hear their rhetoric and think what they are doing is justified.

Officers of all types today have no idea who is just acting like a retard or who truly means to take their life. The left has put them into this absolutely horrible position of having to act in an instant, and these types of situations will no doubt happen and unfortunately probably more often.

Don't disagree with you buddy. Let me put it this way. Had the person that was killed been a fleeing illegal or a felon they're trying to apprehend, I wouldn't have any questions and my opinion would be different. I know my opinion may not be popular but it's just the way I see things.

The left is promoting this violence...they welcome it. They don't give one fuck about the demented and diluted nut job behind the wheel. At some point, this whole shit show is escalating to the point where Trump will have to call in the National Guard.
 

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No doubt. There are reports that the protestor was harassing ICE all day, as well as blocking traffic, so maybe they were going to arrest her. But they didn't try to order her out of the car or at least not that I can see/hear.

Also, the left will attempt to prosecute the officer on the state level. Mark my words. They'll charge him and then the US Attorney's Office will get involved and adopt the case from the locals but it will be a legal battle. The left will do what they can not because of the dead woman....they don't give one fuck about her. But they'll use her death to promote their twisted ideology and try to slow down ICE and the deportations.

yup, they've been dying to have a moment like this to exploit
 

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No doubt. There are reports that the protestor was harassing ICE all day, as well as blocking traffic, so maybe they were going to arrest her. But they didn't try to order her out of the car or at least not that I can see/hear.

Also, the left will attempt to prosecute the officer on the state level. Mark my words. They'll charge him and then the US Attorney's Office will get involved and adopt the case from the locals but it will be a legal battle. The left will do what they can not because of the dead woman....they don't give one fuck about her. But they'll use her death to promote their twisted ideology and try to slow down ICE and the deportations.
Exactly. The woman is not even a Minnesotan.
 

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. But they didn't try to order her out of the car or at least not that I can see/hear.
Basically at the 4-5 second mark of this video you can hear the officer clearly order her out of the car not just once but three times. The last time he loudly says "get out of the fucking car"

 
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