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steven wayne dennis ‏ @cbs11swd

Draft week starter=Source tells me one Jones wants pass rusher w 1st pick, other Jones wants secondary help. Coach Garrett break tie? #dfwsp

sorry, This is scary and shows who is wearing the pants. No matter how much we hear about garrett or ciskowski/chris hall....

this is really scary to me. If jerry or stephen are making and have been making the big picks well, that makes sense I guess...

What do scouting department mean?
 

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steven wayne dennis ‏ @cbs11swd

Draft week starter=Source tells me one Jones wants pass rusher w 1st pick, other Jones wants secondary help. Coach Garrett break tie? #dfwsp

sorry, This is scary and shows who is wearing the pants. No matter how much we hear about garrett or ciskowski/chris hall....

this is really scary to me. If jerry or stephen are making and have been making the big picks well, that makes sense I guess...

What do scouting department mean?

"scouting department" means people who rate the prospects and stack the board
 
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There's not a pass rusher there worth the #14, unless Coples falls and you feel you can keep him motivated.
 

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Wonder who's gonna win out.........which Jones has the biggest trump card? Jerry still pays Stephens checks........not sure Stephen has much to beat that.
 

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They're gonna do the exact same thing they've done the past two years...draft the BPA's when their pick comes up. If a couple or three guys have a similar rating, they'll pick the guy who fills the more critical need.

We have critical needs at interior OL, DL, pass rusher and safety. Nobody in their right mind can argue differently.
 

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steven wayne dennis ‏ @cbs11swd

Draft week starter=Source tells me one Jones wants pass rusher w 1st pick, other Jones wants secondary help. Coach Garrett break tie? #dfwsp

sorry, This is scary and shows who is wearing the pants. No matter how much we hear about garrett or ciskowski/chris hall....

this is really scary to me. If jerry or stephen are making and have been making the big picks well, that makes sense I guess...

What do scouting department mean?

What do hypocrite mean? Arnt you one of the one's constantly worshipping what the Giants do, and saying how we should be more like them? So if the above were true and Jerry was wanting to upgrade the teams pass rush (which does need help, bad) why would that be bad?
 

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What do hypocrite mean? Arnt you one of the one's constantly worshipping what the Giants do, and saying how we should be more like them? So if the above were true and Jerry was wanting to upgrade the teams pass rush (which does need help, bad) why would that be bad?

what do confused and misunderstanding comment mean?

I don't have a problem with improving the pass rush. My problem isn't the player being picked it's the two unqualified people picking the player.

If the scouting department deems an olb/de to be the best player I have no problem with that.

If the scouting department loves mark Barron and Jerry calls up Larry lace well and decides to pick Ingram I have a serious problem with it.

I have said it repeatedly I have no favorite here, we are an 8-8 team lacking talent in alot of spots. So whether it's safety, center, guard, defensive lineman or olb as long as the guy starts from day 1 and is productive I have no problem.
 

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Right, but they have no say? Seems odd if true to say the least.

Where'd you get the idea that they have no say? If the Cowboys are drafting to their board (as they've done the past two years) then the scouts are basically making the calls, are they not?
 

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what do confused and misunderstanding comment mean?

I don't have a problem with improving the pass rush. My problem isn't the player being picked it's the two unqualified people picking the player.

If the scouting department deems an olb/de to be the best player I have no problem with that.

If the scouting department loves mark Barron and Jerry calls up Larry lace well and decides to pick Ingram I have a serious problem with it.

I have said it repeatedly I have no favorite here, we are an 8-8 team lacking talent in alot of spots. So whether it's safety, center, guard, defensive lineman or olb as long as the guy starts from day 1 and is productive I have no problem.

Again, they seem to be drafting to their board the past two years.
 

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I don't care who makes the decision as long as they make the right one.

In a normal situation this would make sense and I agree. We have a good track record in the first round.

But the last x amount of years shows us we have not been making the right ones....so hearing Jerry and Stephen are the ones at odds is alarming to me.
 

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Where'd you get the idea that they have no say? If the Cowboys are drafting to their board (as they've done the past two years) then the scouts are basically making the calls, are they not?

I don't know. They have missed extensively sans the first round.

The stories on Williams and Brewster are the opposite of drafting to the board and drafting players coaches wanted.

I hope they do stick to the board and take the best player. I am not so sure we have seen that yet...

U have to remember last year they wanted a running back pretty badly. They liked Ingram and according to norm they loved Williams but he ended up going to Arizona one spot ahead of us and we took Carter. So we then took Murray. Hard to tell if that was us drafting for need or really having a high grade on Murray.
 

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In a normal situation this would make sense and I agree. We have a good track record in the first round.

But the last x amount of years shows us we have not been making the right ones....so hearing Jerry and Stephen are the ones at odds is alarming to me.

I've heard jerry is just a figurehead.

idk I mean they're in the room they're going to have opinions. We've heard stories about Jerry being talked off people before. If it wasn't for Chan Gailey would Moss have been a Cowboy?
 

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I've heard jerry is just a figurehead.

idk I mean they're in the room they're going to have opinions. We've heard stories about Jerry being talked off people before. If it wasn't for Chan Gailey would Moss have been a Cowboy?

That is the story, chan gailey over ruled Jerry, but you cannot just state it that way because in that moment the team was taking a ton of backlash for the white house and the Irvin trouble. So they were intent on not putting bad guys in the locker room.

Had no problems a few years later though which tells you all we really need to know about Jerry.

I am sure everyone has an opinion I just prefer Jerry and stephens opinions were not so heavy.
 
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