Romo's Performance

[UVAwahoos]

This deadspin article hits a moneyshot right in her eye. Lots of sound and reasonable arguments in the comment section too.

http://deadspin.com/tony-romo-was-tony-romo-until-he-was-tony-romo-1441936222

The quote I liked best was

Basically, he's Dan Marino and needs a ring to become John Elway.

A lot of people argued that he's more like Favre. I think he's a better athlete than Favre (weaker arm obviously) but one had the benefit of guys like Gruden and Holmgren as coaches and the other had a half season of Parcells and then the not-coveted-at-all herpy derp derp combo of Wade Wilson and Gingerfuck.

Essentially, you can win with Romo easily in this league. It's just that our franchise structure is so poor, he'll never get the pieces needed to get a ring and seal his legacy. Elway and Favre had the right GMs and coaching. Marino had a good coach but never got the pieces around him after those first couple seasons. Hell, even Peyton was savvy enough to pick the Broncos over all his other suitors because he knew they'd build a team around him.

The only failures yesterday were the coaches and the man who hired them. Dallas is underperforming because of it.

 

[bbgun]

Marino?? He's more like Jeff Garcia/Dave Krieg, expect those guys had multiple playoff victories.

 

[ZeroClub]

Romo is an outstanding QB who has been cast in the lead of a classic Greek tragedy.

In Greek tragedy, failure is about fate, not fault.

He needs a ring to recast himself, but that ring is so elusive.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Marino?? He's more like Jeff Garcia/Dave Krieg, expect those guys had multiple playoff victories.

You are an idiot or just trolling. Dumb either way.

 

[bbgun]

The comparison is perfectly apt. They're all short, scrappy QBs who overcame their humble collegiate beginnings to have success in the NFL. But Romo is far behind both of them where it matters: the post-season.

 

[JBond]

The comparison is perfectly apt. They're all short, scrappy QBs who overcame their humble collegiate beginnings to have success in the NFL. But Romo is far behind both of them where it matters: the post-season.

I'm not convinced Romo will play in 12 post season games like Craig did.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Not apt at all. Number never lie and Romo's stats match up with some of the all-time greats.

Some of these arguments "ratify" why we have one of the stupidest fanbases in the entire league.

 

[peplaw06]

Career passer rating.

4. Romo - 96.6, 98 games started, 27,260 yards, 190 TD, 2.7 INT % (1.1 so far this year)


15. Garcia - 87.5, 116 GS, 25,537 yards, 161 TD, 2.3 INT %






48. Krieg - 81.5, 175 GS, 38,147 yards, 261 TD, 3.7 INT %



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[JBond]

Not apt at all. Number never lie and Romo's stats match up with some of the all-time greats.

Some of these arguments "ratify" why we have one of the stupidest fanbases in the entire league.

Do you think Romo will play in more than 12 post season games? Maybe the stupid fan base is sick and tired of the stupid team. They are sick of the owner, the coaches, and the players that continually mail it in. 1996 was long fucking time ago.

 

[Jon88]

1996 was over 17 years ago

 

[UVAwahoos]

Do you think Romo will play in more than 12 post season games? Maybe the stupid fan base is sick and tired of the stupid team. They are sick of the owner, the coaches, and the players that continually mail it in. 1996 was long fucking time ago.

The fanbase is dumb for putting it on Romo and diluting his value so readily.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Career passer rating.

4. Romo - 96.6, 98 games started, 27,260 yards, 190 TD, 2.7 INT % (1.1 so far this year)


15. Garcia - 87.5, 116 GS, 25,537 yards, 161 TD, 2.3 INT %


48. Krieg - 81.5, 175 GS, 38,147 yards, 261 TD, 3.7 INT %


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Romo is top 5 all-time in passer rating. Top 5 in DYAR right now and ranked 6 in DVOA. Advanced stats tell the story. Those kinda ranks don't occur by accident.

Garcia and Krieg? Getdafakouttahere

 

[Sheik]

Romo led the offense on 6 TD drives.

He also gave up 51 points, the mother fucker.

 

[bbgun]

Not apt at all. Number never lie and Romo's stats match up with some of the all-time greats.

Some of these arguments "ratify" why we have one of the stupidest fanbases in the entire league.

You clearly care about regular season rotisserie stats more than I do. To me, that's not the mark of a great QB. Marino, for all his failings, steered his team to many more post-season wins than Tony.

 

[JBond]

I love Romo, but I have no illusions about his how far he can take the team, which is not very far. The team is pretty bad and any mistake he makes is magnified because the rest of the team plain sucks. It is too late because we signed him until he is 65, but we should have blown this team up a couple of years ago when it became clear to everyone, except JJ, they cannot compete. This team has no chance of winning a title and that is the goal.

 

[peplaw06]

Pro Football Reference lists "similar players to Romo over a certain number of years... Basically, this list means that Romo's 3 best years compares to x's three best years... to his 9 best years, compares to x's 9 best years.

Best 3 years: Donovan McNabb, Mark Brunell, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Jay Cutler, Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Daunte Culpepper, Boomer Esiason, Ed Brown

Best 4 years: Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Joe Montana*, Donovan McNabb, Mark Brunell, Eli Manning, Charley Johnson, Tom Brady, Randall Cunningham, Troy Aikman*

Best 5 years: Mark Brunell, Tom Brady, Joe Montana*, Donovan McNabb, Brett Favre, Randall Cunningham, Carson Palmer, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Drew Brees

Best 6 years: Mark Rypien, Drew Brees, Troy Aikman*, Carson Palmer, Mark Brunell, Steve McNair, Jay Cutler, Joe Montana*, Trent Green, Marc Bulger

Best 7 years: Milt Plum, Aaron Brooks, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Steve McNair, Tobin Rote, Joe Namath*, Troy Aikman*, Mark Brunell, Drew Bledsoe

Best 8 years: Joe Montana*, Mark Brunell, Troy Aikman*, Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb, Ken Anderson, Joe Namath*, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Drew Bledsoe

Best 9 years: Terry Bradshaw*, Joe Namath*, Tobin Rote, Drew Bledsoe, Matt Hasselbeck, Boomer Esiason, Ken Stabler, Roger Staubach*, Jim Everett, Milt Plum

 

[UVAwahoos]

Pro Football Reference lists "similar players to Romo over a certain number of years... Basically, this list means that Romo's 3 best years compares to x's three best years... to his 9 best years, compares to x's 9 best years.

Best 3 years: Donovan McNabb, Mark Brunell, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Jay Cutler, Kurt Warner, Eli Manning, Daunte Culpepper, Boomer Esiason, Ed Brown

Best 4 years: Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Joe Montana*, Donovan McNabb, Mark Brunell, Eli Manning, Charley Johnson, Tom Brady, Randall Cunningham, Troy Aikman*

Best 5 years: Mark Brunell, Tom Brady, Joe Montana*, Donovan McNabb, Brett Favre, Randall Cunningham, Carson Palmer, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Drew Brees

Best 6 years: Mark Rypien, Drew Brees, Troy Aikman*, Carson Palmer, Mark Brunell, Steve McNair, Jay Cutler, Joe Montana*, Trent Green, Marc Bulger

Best 7 years: Milt Plum, Aaron Brooks, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Steve McNair, Tobin Rote, Joe Namath*, Troy Aikman*, Mark Brunell, Drew Bledsoe

Best 8 years: Joe Montana*, Mark Brunell, Troy Aikman*, Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb, Ken Anderson, Joe Namath*, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Drew Bledsoe

Best 9 years: Terry Bradshaw*, Joe Namath*, Tobin Rote, Drew Bledsoe, Matt Hasselbeck, Boomer Esiason, Ken Stabler, Roger Staubach*, Jim Everett, Milt Plum

:applausebluestarsmiley

Romo is one of the few great QBs in history robbed by a demented owner and utter lack of coaching. Dallas has no power structure whatsoever. Just look at the difference between New Orleans this season vs last. Coaching and QB are more important than anything in today's NFL. Hell, even amongst the names in bold on this list, it's clear that the ones who succeeded most did so with some of the all-time great HCs.

What some of these more advanced stats prove most of all though, is that Romo is farrrrrr from the problem here.

 

[Jon88]

Romo isn't the problem. The problem is Jerry.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Yes Denver assigned 3 guys to Gavin Escobar . That's what they did

 

[boozeman]

Romo isn't the problem. The problem is Jerry.

The problem is ultimately Jerry because he accepts what Romo does repeatedly, practically every year, when his franchise needs him to come through to go forward. He has also failed to get him the proper tools to move forward, like a quality QB coach and offensive coordinator.