NFL Week #11: Early and Late Games Thread

[peplaw06]

If you saw his first year when he was running all over the place and flinging the ball everywhere and said it would be only his decent year... then like I said, it was just wishful thinking on your part.

There's plenty of room in this league for a dual threat QB... see Wilson, Newton, Kaepernick, etc.

 

[Doomsday]

If you saw his first year when he was running all over the place and flinging the ball everywhere and said it would be only his decent year... then like I said, it was just wishful thinking on your part.

I did see, and identified it for exactly what it was - flash in the pan.

There's plenty of room in this league for a dual threat QB... see Wilson, Newton, Kaepernick, etc.

Yeah, look at Wilson for the example. He has excellent mechanics, great foot habits, excellent snap decision making. He is a quarterback. Who can run as a second language.

Newton has none of the above. If he can't just run up a tree, he is lost back there. Same for RG Pee.

Both should be slot men, they would have hall of fame careers tearing defenses up with their open field running skills.

Kaepernick, the jury is still out on. He has some habitual poor decision making. Plus he isn't anywhere near the athletes Newton and Griffin are.

 

[Doomsday]

Newton and Griffin are being wasted, their true talents wasted, mainly due to political correctness.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

I'm with Pep. I think Shanahan basically ruined Griffin by playing him injured. Until he blew out his knee he was looking like a player. He's never recovered from it.

I still don't look forward to facing them last game of the year.

I also don't put him in the same category as Newton. Cam just doesn't like football that much and has terrible mechanics and work ethic.

 

[Doomsday]

I'm with Pep. I think Shanahan basically ruined Griffin by playing him injured. Until he blew out his knee he was looking like a player. He's never recovered from it.

But how did this happen, right? Defenses learned not to have the DEs crash down all the time, and they started beating the hell out of these guys. Defenses adjusted. Quarterbacks got hurt. The read-option is stupid in the NFL, the defensive players are just too fast, too big.

Take the read option away from Griffin and Newton, and they're nothing. They simply can't be pro-style drop back quarterbacks.

 

[Iamtdg]

I also don't put him in the same category as Newton. Cam just doesn't like football that much and has terrible mechanics and work ethic.

Dude, have you not seen the commercials with him like working out hard and shit? HE LEAVES SWEAT ON THE MAT!

 

[Doomsday]

I also don't put him in the same category as Newton. Cam just doesn't like football that much and has terrible mechanics and work ethic.

Have you paid attention to Griffin's mechanics and footwork? Horrible.

 

[Doomsday]

Both guys either refuse to learn the position, or can't learn it. Old habits just too ingrained.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I'm with Pep. I think Shanahan basically ruined Griffin by playing him injured. Until he blew out his knee he was looking like a player. He's never recovered from it.

I still don't look forward to facing them last game of the year.

I also don't put him in the same category as Newton. Cam just doesn't like football that much and has terrible mechanics and work ethic.

Well think abut this: If we lose and miss the playoffs... Garrett is gone.

I'll put up with the loud-mouth bragging from sorry-ass Redskins' fans for that scenario.

 

[Doomsday]

Well think abut this: If we lose and miss the playoffs... Garrett is gone.

I'm just.... not all that sure about it. Too many ready made excuses for Jerruh, starting with Romo's injuries.

 

[Sheik]

Need the lions and packers to win.

Eli is horrible. 5 picks and his team lost by 6. Needed him to not go full retard today.

 

[Doomsday]

Eli is horrible.

It's easy to ask "what happened to Eli" but really - was he ever, really, a elite or even a good quarterback?

And at what point does Coughlin just sit him?

 

[Sheik]

Idk how good he ever was really. Look at a lot of the late game heroics, they were prayer throws. He throws wayyyyyy too many int to be an elite QB, IMO.

 

[Sheik]

The Cardinals look fucking great against Detroit.

 

[peplaw06]

Eli isn't smart enough to be elite. He can make the throws, but not consistently enough. And he makes bone-headed decisions far too often to be elite. He makes Weeden level decisions at times. He probably could have had 6 or 7 INTs today. Anyone see that 3rd & 6 play at the end where he was about to be sacked and he threw the ball backwards over his shoulder to the middle of the field? That Weeden INT from last year wasn't even that dumb. Eli just got lucky no one was there.

Eli won 2 Super Bowls on the coattails of his defense. He is Trent Dilfer with 2 rings.

 

[Iamtdg]

Eli doesn't have the mental makeup to be elite. He's a spoiled little fucking kid. Can't be elite if after you throw an INT you go to sidelines, pop open a Caprisun and call your momma for condolence.

 

[Sheik]

I could never see Eli as a HOFer. You know he'll get there tho. Thats weird.

 

[Sheik]

Stafford looks like he lost 20 lbs since I last saw him play.

 

[Sheik]

The league really has to get rid of this illegal contact shit.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Packers 17-0. Not that surprised.

Division is so gift wrapped for us this year. Garrett is the luckiest mofo I've ever seen.