How come we suck rounds 3-7, but then have better than respectable success in UDFA????
Explain that, Lucy?
Junk/Sturm inspired this thread. Why do Cowboys suck at the draft so bad?
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How come we suck rounds 3-7, but then have better than respectable success in UDFA????
Explain that, Lucy?
dbair1967
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Just going from recent memory:
S Peterman (granted he isnt here, but he is a quality starter for the Lions now, we should have never released him)
Jason Hatcher
Jay Ratliff
O Scandrick
Patrick Crayton
Doug Free
John Phillips
Marion Barber III
Lissemore (looks very promising)
Bradie James
And you cant simply discount players who were UDFA's. Somebody is definitely doing something right in scouting those guys.
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I'm not suggesting we aren't awful in these rounds. I just want to see some
Proof that other teams are better.
Not many teams hit on those late rounders
Proof that other teams are better.
Not many teams hit on those late rounders
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Not sure I even agree with the premise. I don't remember a lot of guys hurt last year when we collapsed the last five games. It was just poor coaching and lack of mental toughness.
In fact, we haven't even had really serious injury problems in a long time.
In fact, we haven't even had really serious injury problems in a long time.
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It's like they go out of the way to blame everything but the actual problems of shitty coaching and bad playcalling.
Garrett is a victim of poor talent in the same way that Hitler was a victim of mean Jews that needed to be taught a lesson.
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I would answer that but I can't tell if you're being serious or mocking someone, middy... lol
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Still can't tell... lol
But if you are, coaching is a huge part of execution. Not saying you're claiming this, because I know you're smarter than that, but some people seem to think if you draw up a play -- a simple, staple play, not some motion-Miles Austin-into-the-backfield-and-pitch-it-to-him-on-3rd-and-5 play -- and it doesn't work, it's all on the players.
But if you are, coaching is a huge part of execution. Not saying you're claiming this, because I know you're smarter than that, but some people seem to think if you draw up a play -- a simple, staple play, not some motion-Miles Austin-into-the-backfield-and-pitch-it-to-him-on-3rd-and-5 play -- and it doesn't work, it's all on the players.
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Huh? WTF?
The LG position had how many different starters? Didnt Murray and Jones both miss alot of time? Austin missed alot of time and was never 100% after week two. Bryant was hobbled all year. Ware and Ratliff both struggled with injuries late. The CB position was a weekly issue with all the guys we had hurt.
I'd also class losing your starting QB for the season at around the halfway point (2010) a major injury. And Romo played through a very significant injury last year as well.
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No, am just suggesting its probably no worse than what most teams do.
And I'm suggesting you have no idea what you're talking about.
I mean, look at your list.
Stephen Peterman hasn't been here his entire career virtually. And our coaching staff gave up on him. He plays a position we suck at and have for year.
Orlando Scandrick has been about as consistant as diareah.
You listed John Phillips? Listen, we all have hope for the guy but you know you're reaching when you have to list a third year back up TE who missed all of his second year.
If Chris Carter read your post he'd go C'MON MAN!!!! brought to you by Geico
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Give me a break, dbair. Other than the Romo one in 2010, what you listed wasn't even serious as NFL injury situations go. The Giants were worse off than us with had several guys on IR last year. LG? Losing your LG is nothing.
And even regarding 2010, how about Houston losing their starting QB (and backup) and best defensive player for the year? What about the Patriots going 11-5 the year Brady was lost the first game of the year?
Yet somehow those teams carry on and manage win.
For this analysis to be any sort of meaningful it would have to be compared across the league.
If we hit on 30% of our late round draft picks as a standalone stat that looks bad.
But if the rest of the league is hitting at an average of about 20% suddenly we are above average.
I don't know if we are or aren't but you can't just look at our drafts and say oh we're terrible. You need a point of reference.
If we hit on 30% of our late round draft picks as a standalone stat that looks bad.
But if the rest of the league is hitting at an average of about 20% suddenly we are above average.
I don't know if we are or aren't but you can't just look at our drafts and say oh we're terrible. You need a point of reference.