Josh Brent on the sideline

[UVAwahoos]

I'm absolutely going to admit that it's a far lesser issue bc a practice squader died. But. I think Garrett is doing the smartest thing to use this tragedy as a way to get through to his team

The flip side of this argument is no better. bbgun and iamgtystupidusername also read "josh brown" and then continued on sipping coffee and finishing up their toaster strudel without a worry in the world. Now they want to kick up a huge fuss over this?

Yeah...ok.

 

[bbgun]

Because you are. Rather than debate you and imfatdg have decided to fellate each other with red herrings.

You're allowed to be offended by this. I never tried to claim otherwise. Where you overstep yourself is to declare it inappropriate (which is no longer simply a statement about how this makes you feel) as though your feelings on the matter are universally "correct" and most important. You've elevated your opinion and feelings over people who are actually involved in the situation - the players, coaches, owners and family of Brent/Brown.

There is no right answer on this and the people involved did what they thought was best. Can you elaborate on why you feel you are correct in stating that they handled it wrong - inappropriately? Or can you admit that you're inappropriately projecting your personal feelings out as though they are the authority on the matter, which is stupid.

So there are no wrong answers, yet I'm losing? Am I losing if I prefer chocolate over vanilla ice cream? I'm comfortable assuming that most people had an instinctively negative reaction to Brent's presence yesterday. No one with two DUIs and a murder rap should be rewarded with sideline access. The fact that I even have to say that is disturbing unto itself. Mama Brown may have had her wishes, but Jerry was under no obligation to honor them. Then again, we're talking about a classic enabler who conducted a ridiculously biased internal investigation of Pacman and declared everything to be just peachy! Fortunately, the commish ruled otherwise.

 

[bbgun]

The flip side of this argument is no better. bbgun and iamgtystupidusername also read "josh brown" and then continued on sipping coffee and finishing up their toaster strudel without a worry in the world. Now they want to kick up a huge fuss over this?

Yeah...ok.

Huge fuss? Did I take out a whole page ad in the DMN or something? I didn't even take sides in the first post in this thread.

 

[superpunk]

The losing had to do with fallacies and fellatio you and immmmmmmmmmmmmmg were tossing back and forth.

You're welcome to be offended just avoid saying whether how they handled it was right or wrong. Dude made a mistake, is going to pay for it, right now his team (the people actually affected here) just wants to support him. Faulting them for that isn't cool no matter how it makes you (someone who never knew or cared who Jerry Brown was) feel when you see it on TV.

 

[bbgun]

The losing had to do with fallacies and fellatio you and immmmmmmmmmmmmmg were tossing back and forth.

You're welcome to be offended just avoid saying whether how they handled it was right or wrong. Dude made a mistake, is going to pay for it, right now his team (the people actually affected here) just wants to support him. Faulting them for that isn't cool no matter how it makes you (someone who never knew or cared who Jerry Brown was) feel when you see it on TV.

As I said, support him behind the scenes. Don't telegraph to the world that your organization has no sense of ethics or propriety.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The timing was wrong.

 

[Iamtdg]

Just because it's their call doesn't make it appropriate.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Jerry tells superpunk what time the sun sets.

 

[Iamtdg]

Superderp is making me hope Brent gets 20 years.

 

[superpunk]

As I said, support him behind the scenes. Don't telegraph to the world that your organization has no sense of ethics or propriety.

What you're saying is that you think public perception is more important than what the team felt was right and wanted to do here. Why is that?

 

[Iamtdg]

What you're saying is that you think public perception is more important than what the team felt was right and wanted to do here. Why is that?

No, it was what Mama Brown and his friends wanted, not what the team felt was right. The team gave in to the pressure forfeiting what it may have actually felt was the right thing.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Yeah crazy how "Make our OL better" is the right solution when our OL sucks.

In delicate moral issues with no right answer suddenly I'm willing to give the people actually affected room to do what they feel is right. Crazy huh?

If you think you'd feel the same way about Brent being on the sideline if Ware was the player who was killed--or if the team got destroyed by Cinci and Pitt--then keep lying to yourself.

It's more likely that you're just being a hypocrite bc you could give a fuck about either player...and you realize the team is 2-0 since the incident, so there's no clear distraction by having Brent around.

 

[superpunk]

If you think you'd feel the same way about Brent being on the sideline if Ware was the player who was killed--or if the team got destroyed by Cinci and Pitt--then keep lying to yourself.

It's more likely that you're just being a hypocrite bc you could give a fuck about either player...and you realize the team is 2-0 since the incident, so there's no clear distraction by having Brent around.

Not sure how to respond to your series of hypothetical scenarios and your cocksure predictions of how I would react to each and every one of them but I'm glad you can read my mind.

 

[bbgun]

Never said "more important." A solid majority of fans and media types feel that the team was wrong to provide Brent that type of access on the heels of a tragedy that he alone created. I seriously doubt that I would be swapping jokes in the lunch room had I killed a co-worker in a drunk driving accident.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Huge fuss? Did I take out a whole page ad in the DMN or something? I didn't even take sides in the first post in this thread.

Unless the front page of the DMN allows for advertisements of free candy and ice cream to the first 25 children who reply to bbgun@aol.com, I don't think you want anything to do with it.

 

[tupperware]

I like that they had him down there.

Josh is their family and they're going to support him through this. That has been made perfectly clear already. Brown's family is fine with it, the Cowboys family is fine with it, the only people who aren't fine with it are moron analysts and fans - and none of those people matter. So the Cowboys are doing what they want to do within their family and fuck everyone else who thinks they should do something different.

Suppose a Cowboy fan had his family wiped out by a drunk driver the year before. Then they see that kind of support, having him on the sideline, so soon after the fact. I'm okay if they want to support him. I'm not sure having him on the sideline so soon afterwards was a good call. Idiotic drunk drivers reach and affect far more people than Brent and the Brown family.

 

[bbgun]

the Cowboys family is fine with it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest

 

[superpunk]

Never said "more important." A solid majority of fans and media types feel that the team was wrong to provide Brent that type of access on the heels of a tragedy that he alone created. I seriously doubt that I would be swapping jokes in the lunch room had I killed a co-worker in a drunk driving accident.

When I see you say something is inappropriate you've gone from expressing how it makes you feel to declaring it wrong. Which yes, implies that you believe your personal feelings on the matter are more important than the personal feelings of the people involved, who decided to handle it "inappropriately".

Feel free to be offended for no reason but avoid passing judgement on people who are doing their best to do what they feel is right in a tough situation, IMO.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Not sure how to respond to your series of hypothetical scenarios and your cocksure predictions of how I would react to each and every one of them but I'm glad you can read my mind.

A simple "you're right, I'm just stoned and trolling" would have sufficed.

Either way, looks like his precious supporting "family" that you speak of sent his ass home at halftime.

When Brent became aware that his appearance was causing a debate, he left in the second half. It is not clear whether Brent will continue to attend home games, but if he does, it could be in a more discreet way.

 

[superpunk]

How did your brain read "Brent left on his own in the second half" and then interpret it as "the rest of his team sent him home"?

Son, are you on the marijuana? Stop trying to read things and come up with more retarded hypotheticals, then tell us all how we would feel about them.