I already hate Carson Wentz

[Doomsday]

I know for a fact though that if by some miracle they finish with a top seed and do well this year all of you will be talking about how you knew this year was going to be great.

You'd never see anything like that. You don't know shit.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

It's not just the QB position they can't identify talent with. Look at our revolving door of running backs this year, look at our tight ends behind Witten, hell - look at pretty much any position beyond our starters, and for the most part look at a majority of our starters too. Our secondary is a joke besides Jones. They got lucky with him. I believe he will be a top safety eventually.

They can't evaluate talent at any level

I have to disagree with you on the TEs. We've had decent talent at that position behind Witten, it's just the failure of GARRETT to utilize them. You got James Hannah at 6'4 and runs what.. 4.5 in the forty? A mismatch for most LBs and DBs, but Garrett's inability to utilize him.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

I love when fans like MrB tell us how to improve ourselves as fans.

I think he's right. I think we should all be super pumped up about that 4-12 turd we just witnessed.

 

[Dodger12]

I know for a fact though that if by some miracle they finish with a top seed and do well this year all of you will be talking about how you knew this year was going to be great.

No, we won't. People will give credit where it's due and enjoy tuning in on Sundays and for the playoffs. You just can't excuse this year as bad luck; you can't not point to a coaching failure at some level; you also can't not point to a talent evaluation failure at some level as well, especially at the QB position.

And it's kind of funny how you have an issue how folks post and even you feel that it would take a "miracle" to finish with the top seed. Why should that be? Haven't we been rebuilding for years? Isn't that an excuse that folks like you used to justify the results on the filed? And after all these rebuilding years, we'd still need a miracle. You should be pissed too.

I really hope you guys aren't as "glass is half empty" in your lives off this board.

And I hope you don't readily accept failure and mediocrity in your every day life as easily as you do here.

 

[onlyonenow]

To maintain a strong roster you need to get at least 2 starters and 2 decent players with potential to be starters each year either from the Draft or UDFA. And do well in your FA pickups. We have not done that well in the draft or UDFA and have had to spend more for other teams FA to compensate.

 

[cmd34]

And I hope you don't readily accept failure and mediocrity in your every day life as easily as you do here.

Headshot.

 

[peplaw06]

I know for a fact though that if by some miracle they finish with a top seed and do well this year all of you will be talking about how you knew this year was going to be great.

So is this supposed to be the incentive to believe that this team is a good one? You get to say you were right about it if they do well? Congrats, you had blind optimism and the team overachieved. That's some charmed life you live there.

Question, have you been optimistic about every team the past 20 years? I suppose you were wrong about all of those then right? Is it worth being wrong 20 straight years so if they do get the top seed in 2016, you can finally be right? Ever hear that a broken clock is right twice a day?

 

[Iamtdg]

No, we won't. People will give credit where it's due and enjoy tuning in on Sundays and for the playoffs. You just can't excuse this year as bad luck; you can't not point to a coaching failure at some level; you also can't not point to a talent evaluation failure at some level as well, especially at the QB position.

And it's kind of funny how you have an issue how folks post and even you feel that it would take a "miracle" to finish with the top seed. Why should that be? Haven't we been rebuilding for years? Isn't that an excuse that folks like you used to justify the results on the filed? And after all these rebuilding years, we'd still need a miracle. You should be pissed too.



And I hope you don't readily accept failure and mediocrity in your every day life as easily as you do here.

BOOM!

 

[MrB]

No, we won't. People will give credit where it's due and enjoy tuning in on Sundays and for the playoffs. You just can't excuse this year as bad luck; you can't not point to a coaching failure at some level; you also can't not point to a talent evaluation failure at some level as well, especially at the QB position.

And it's kind of funny how you have an issue how folks post and even you feel that it would take a "miracle" to finish with the top seed. Why should that be? Haven't we been rebuilding for years? Isn't that an excuse that folks like you used to justify the results on the filed? And after all these rebuilding years, we'd still need a miracle. You should be pissed too.

I said in another post on here that I think coaching is the problem. Not lack of talent. Since Garrett has been here they have drafted several players that have potential just have never been coach up. How else can you explain players leaving Dallas and having success with other teams.

This team has not been rebuilding for a ton of years. Jerry was convinced that 13-3 Wade team was good enough to win a Super Bowl so he plugged holes trying to keep that team the same. Then the real rebuilding started when that OL started coming together. The rebuilding should continue when they draft a QB with the 4th pick this year.

It's obvious that this team is in bad shape and need better coaching. Anyone can see that. There are some real idiots on this board though. Like whoever it was that said that the Cowboys are the only team to have zero plan when going into the draft. As if they're just throwing darts at a board and picking what ever name it hits.

If you guys don't like being called out for being bandwagon fans that only support your team when they do great then don't act that way. I'm not saying you have to like that the team had a bad year but to actually think a team would go into the draft with zero plan? That's about the dumbest shit I've ever heard anyone say.

 

[Dodger12]

I said in another post on here that I think coaching is the problem. Not lack of talent. Since Garrett has been here they have drafted several players that have potential just have never been coach up. How else can you explain players leaving Dallas and having success with other teams.

Coaching and talent are both huge issues. One problem can be solved by Jerry and the other by God. And what players have had this "success" with other teams? A bunch of TE that are nothing more than stop gap players who go from team to team? How about Bruce Carter? Felix Jones? MBIII? Jenkins? Randle? Murray? McGee? Brewster? AOA? Jason and Brandon Williams? Butler? Choice? James Marten? Stanback?

All those guys I mentioned were 4th round or better and I could go on but you get the idea. Throw in scrubs like Wilcox, Claiborne, Wilbur, Escobar, Williams and even Crawford and you start to get a very clear picture that this team just can't draft.

The folks that have probably had the most success with other teams is Ware and TNew. Ware was a HoF level player when he was here and he's still productive. TNew was OK here and is OK in Cincy. That's about it. Even Hatcher had a decent run here and fell flat with Washington.

This team has not been rebuilding for a ton of years. Jerry was convinced that 13-3 Wade team was good enough to win a Super Bowl so he plugged holes trying to keep that team the same. Then the real rebuilding started when that OL started coming together. The rebuilding should continue when they draft a QB with the 4th pick this year.

What does that even mean? Would that be 2011 with Tyrone Smith? Or are you saying the rebuilding just started?

It's obvious that this team is in bad shape and need better coaching. Anyone can see that. There are some real idiots on this board though. Like whoever it was that said that the Cowboys are the only team to have zero plan when going into the draft. As if they're just throwing darts at a board and picking what ever name it hits.

Then show me what this plan is and where they have been successful on Day 2 where real teams are built. I'm glad they hit on their first round picks but what's the plan after that? One year, we need to fix the corners, next year, the DL and then maybe the corners and DL again because we couldn't "fix' them the first time.

I mean, we've even had a ST draft and our ST still suck buffalo balls. Take it from me, the dart board would have more success so don't knock it.

If you guys don't like being called out for being bandwagon fans that only support your team when they do great then don't act that way. I'm not saying you have to like that the team had a bad year but to actually think a team would go into the draft with zero plan? That's about the dumbest shit I've ever heard anyone say.

What do you mean "you guys?" I don't think you'll find a more passionate bunch of Cowboys fans than in here. The difference is that we're Cowboys fans and want the team to win. You're a Jerry fan and you're awed by everything other than the product on the field. There's really very little you can defend about this team. Buy your jersey and enjoy the stadium "experience"......it's all about being entertained; Jerry loves suckers like you.

 

[Doomsday]

If you guys don't like being called out for being bandwagon fans that only support your team when they do great

You must be lost. This is the DCU, where bandwagon fans really don't exist. Read around some, you're just looking woefully ignorant.

 

[bbgun]

I'm beginning to think MrB lied on his application

 

[cmd34]

I don't get this idea that we are so much more talented now that Garrett is here. First off, he is like the 4th person consulted on any personnel move. But let's pretend that Garrett has a real say in personnel..Where's the proof that the roster is more talented?

The bottom end of the roster is Jacksonville-level bad, which makes sense since that's the only credible NFL job Will McClay had before he came here and was anointed "Head Fall Guy."

Which position are we loaded at so much that we could trade a young, talented back-up for a draft pick or another position of need?

Who are the young players on the team, currently not starting, that you'd be willing to bet your house will be an impact player in a year or two? I'll give you Randy Gregory but let's not forget there was a reason he was available at the bottom of the 2nd round.

Why can't all of this so-called talent win without Tony Romo?

Which free agent are you seriously worried about losing this off-season?

but hey, we're talented...

 

[SixisBetter]

Jesus.
There is no bandwagon to jump onto or off of.
I'm not sure if the DCU is the island of the misfit toys or just a plain old bunch of assholes.
But I'm absolutely sure we are Dallas Cowboys fans.

 

[bvhawkeye]

It's funny how you pick out players that serve your argument but failed to address they guys they hit on.

I really get a kick out of all the doom and gloom guys on this board. It's like you're rooting for them to fail. I completely understand that since Jimmy left things have been pretty bad. You guys seem to hope they do worse this coming year than they did this past year.

I know for a fact though that if by some miracle they finish with a top seed and do well this year all of you will be talking about how you knew this year was going to be great.

I really hope you guys aren't as "glass is half empty" in your lives off this board.

And you are in fact doing just the opposite in throwing out the greatness of good picks (all high draft picks I might add) and failing to mention his consistent lower round failures.

Can't think of any reason to believe that things are going to get better. Same idiot GM, same vanilla conservative coach, same pathetic offensive co ordinator, same vanilla defensive co ordinator, same terrible special teams coach.

A top seed is a total pipe dream for any realistic fan of the Cowboys.

Head over to the morons on the rivals.com board (Ranch Report) and sing cum-by-ahh with all of the Garrett lovers and hope for another miracle 12-4 season (this is the actual season that was the fluke) and whine about how many injuries Dallas had as the perfect excuse for the losses when every single team has multiple injures every single year

 

[Sheik]

MrB, more like MrV, as in vagina.

lulz, see what I did there, gais?

 

[MrB]

MrB, more like MrV, as in vagina.

lulz, see what I did there, gais?

Hahaha

 

[Sheik]

Hahaha

I fuckin smoked your ass on that one.

 

[Omegasupreme]

I don't get this idea that we are so much more talented now that Garrett is here. First off, he is like the 4th person consulted on any personnel move. But let's pretend that Garrett has a real say in personnel..Where's the proof that the roster is more talented?

The bottom end of the roster is Jacksonville-level bad, which makes sense since that's the only credible NFL job Will McClay had before he came here and was anointed "Head Fall Guy."

Which position are we loaded at so much that we could trade a young, talented back-up for a draft pick or another position of need?

Who are the young players on the team, currently not starting, that you'd be willing to bet your house will be an impact player in a year or two? I'll give you Randy Gregory but let's not forget there was a reason he was available at the bottom of the 2nd round.

Why can't all of this so-called talent win without Tony Romo?

Which free agent are you seriously worried about losing this off-season?

but hey, we're talented...

There are some instances that Jason has a say, and they are the most overt failures evident last year. First, Jason wants QBs and WRs players that are already trained in the system. This sounds smart but the Coryell has such regular failure that these players are always available. Getting the Coryell player is at the expense of effective or talented game-changing players. Weeden (Norv) Cassel (Norv) and Kellen Moore (Linehan) were shopped for by Jerry based on Jason's grocery preferences. And they were terrible. Brice Butler (who? And what has he done to give up a draft pick and not wait until he is cut) was from Greg Olson/Al Saunders. DMC was also Olson/Saunders and Norv. I think Jason requests players from Seattle as well because he thinks like his Mike Krzyznski ploy that osmosis will make him seem like a good coach and he and Jerry have talked about how much they like Seattle. I think for skills position players Jason gets his preferences.
The fortunate gain of Brice Butler was that he runs a 4.37/40 but who cares, he isn't used. I have heard Jason talk about vertical leap being something he looks for but the Brice Butler trade happened when there was a lot of criticism that the team lacked speed at WR. The Garrett family thinks they are experts at WRs and Jason (most likely through his brother/father) was boastfully responsible for Terrance Williams and Devin Street. Both dopes.
But To your point, the defense is all Jerry's. Gregory? Hardy? McClain? Not really Jason's and not Jason's responsibility.

 

[dbair1967]

Identifying QB talent is not just drafting one but identifying an existing QB to be a back-up. With the exception of Jon Kitna, what do we have to show for it? Brad Noodle Arm Johnson? Weeden? Cassel? McGee?

Sure it's a failure of the organization as a whole but but Garrett is far from blameless.

What did you reasonably expect them to develop from that wealth of talent and ability?