Holmgren exit PC today

[dbair1967]

Tweets from his PC today:


Tony Grossi ‏ @ TonyGrossi
Mike Holmgren will not sit at dais. Has elected to stand. Thus the "informal" nature of farewell.



Tony Grossi ‏ @ TonyGrossi
Mike HOlmgren said Friday's his last day.



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said his last day with team is Friday. He and his wife are flying out Saturday.



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said he's leaving before end of season because his contribution is done and he has "passed the baton."





Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren said he's already "passed the baton" and time for him to leave



Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge
Mike Holmgren said "on one hand yeah..but I feel good about what the future holds (for # Browns)" when asked if he leaves unsatisfied



Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren says he feels he's leaving the team in great shape and confident it's headed in right direction



Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren says he hired good business people to turn around profitability of team; "we got the house a little bit in order"



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said he can't tell what the future holds for him and time will tell.

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said he phoned # Cowboys owner Jerry Jones before game & Jones encouraged him to chat before game last week.


Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said he doesn't have an agreement with Jimmy Haslam that would preclude him from coaching elsewhere.

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren said he's allowed to coach another team; won't talk about compensation/settlement w/ Haslam



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Pres Holmgren: "I honestly don't know if I'm gonna go back to work immediately or not & I don't know if it will be back in football"



Tom Withers ‏ @ twithersAP
Holmgren says he doesn't know if he'll coach or work again in football. # Browns



Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot
# Browns Holmgren on Colt McCoy: "I've always thought he could play.''



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said he thinks Brandon Weeden can play & has very good chance to be a fine QB in # NFL.

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren makes it pretty clear as politely as possible that coaching the # Browns wasn't for him - "I didn't want to coach then"



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Holmgren reiterates reason for not coaching in CLE: I didn't want to coach anymore at that point. It was difficult for me to watch

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # Browns Holmgren on trying his hand at President: "It was very, very difficult for me to watch.''



Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren asked about regrets - "there are some things I would've like to have done better; I was on a learning curve as the president"



Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge
Former # Browns President Mike Holmgren said "There are certain things that I would have like to have done better (in Cleveland)"



Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren - "I would've liked to give the fans something they deserve & you'll see that in the next couple of years; that's my feeling"



Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren compares passion in Cle to GB "you have no idea what it's like to work there until you do; you have no idea"



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said he's very thankful for opportunity in CLE. Said you don't understand passion of fans until you're here.



Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren - "I believe in the guys that are here; I hired them; I tried to convey that to them as best as I could"



Tom Withers ‏ @ twithersAP
Holmgren: "I believe in the guys that are here. I hired them. We haven't won as many games as we'd like, but it's coming." # Browns



Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN
Holmgren re: convos w/ Banner & Haslam - "now all the talking is done and I've said all I have to say"



Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ
# Browns Pres Mike Holmgren said he doesn't think about his legacy too much. Said he believes franchise is in really good hands.

 

[UVAwahoos]

I'm 50/50. If he could do well with Hasselbeck, then he might be ok here.

Problem is that he's not a long term solution, and the less number of times jerry is hiring a coach, the better...

 

[Iamtdg]

With two posts saying 50/50, does that make you 25% sure?

 

[junk]

What do you think the odds are that Holmgren comes in as an offensive consultant or something? Similar to what they were going to do with Reeves?

I think Garrett has really struggled, but I'm not sure Jerry pulls the plug yet.

 

[UVAwahoos]

With two posts saying 50/50, does that make you 25% sure?

Yes exactly.

 

[UVAwahoos]

What do you think the odds are that Holmgren comes in as an offensive consultant or something? Similar to what they were going to do with Reeves?

I think Garrett has really struggled, but I'm not sure Jerry pulls the plug yet.

So you want Callahan, Holmgren and Ginger to all do the job of one coach?

Or you want Holmgren to come in and hold Ginger's hand?

Makes zero sense, so it's probably what will happen. I doubt it will lead to more wins though. Gameday management is still atrocious, and Andy Reid is proof that experience and age don't really ensure that it can improve.

 

[Iamtdg]

What do you think the odds are that Holmgren comes in as an offensive consultant or something? Similar to what they were going to do with Reeves?

I think Garrett has really struggled, but I'm not sure Jerry pulls the plug yet.

Probably not. Jerry will make him "punch the clock" and Holmgren ain't gonna be havin' nona that.

 

[cmd34(work)]

No thank you.

 

[junk]

So you want Callahan, Holmgren and Ginger to all do the job of one coach?

Or you want Holmgren to come in and hold Ginger's hand?

Makes zero sense, so it's probably what will happen. I doubt it will lead to more wins though. Gameday management is still atrocious, and Andy Reid is proof that experience and age don't really ensure that it can improve.

I don't want it to happen. I don't think I even phrased it that way. I simply asked what people that the likelihood of that happening would be. Does it seem feasible with this screw up of an organization? Yes, in my opinion.

I don't get the Callahan coaching cred though. His resume isn't all that impressive to me.

 

[cmd34(work)]

I don't want it to happen. I don't think I even phrased it that way. I simply asked what people that the likelihood of that happening would be. Does it seem feasible with this screw up of an organization? Yes, in my opinion.

I don't get the Callahan coaching cred though. His resume isn't all that impressive to me.

I will help you out with this.

Coaches for other teams = overrated bums
Coaches (or strength and conditioning guys) we sign = kingmakers

Same deal for players:
Players we sign/trade for/draft = awesome
Players we don't sign/trade for/draft = awful scrubs

see dbair circa 2011 for confirmation on these guidelines.

Hi David...

 

[junk]

Probably not. Jerry will make him "punch the clock" and Holmgren ain't gonna be havin' nona that.

My hunch is that whole thing was driven by Garrett. I think Wade wanted to bring Reeves in to mentor Garrett, Jerry agreed to it, Garrett complained and then they proceeded to run Reeves off.

Hiring Reeves would have been a huge boon to Garrett.

 

[Iamtdg]

My hunch is that whole thing was driven by Garrett. I think Wade wanted to bring Reeves in to mentor Garrett, Jerry agreed to it, Garrett complained and then they proceeded to run Reeves off.

Hiring Reeves would have been a huge boon to Garrett.

Of course it was spin for the media, but the bigger point is, what will the spin be next time? And what will fuel it? And why will the lunatic let it happen yet again?

 

[UVAwahoos]

I don't want it to happen. I don't think I even phrased it that way. I simply asked what people that the likelihood of that happening would be. Does it seem feasible with this screw up of an organization? Yes, in my opinion.

I don't get the Callahan coaching cred though. His resume isn't all that impressive to me.

Wasn't trying to imply that you advocated the idea. Our point is the same though. The organization would be even more of a circus if they just keep trying to patch these holes up.

1) Garrett can't coach the receivers? Lets bring in jimmy.

2) Garrett can't do shit about the oline? Lets bring in Callahan

3) Garrett just sucks overall? Lets bring in Holmgren to babysit.

4) No reasonable TE development since Fasano left? Lets bring in no one cuz we don't want Judd to be homeless.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Yeah, can't see Holmgren as a consultant to Garrett. Their offensive systems aren't even the same.

And besides, Holmgren would probably go nuts knowing he could do the job so much better himself than the guy he was trying to help. I suspect that's what happened in Cleveland.