Day After Thoughts: Cowboys dominate Jets

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Yeah yeah, it's the now 0-5 Jets. Obviously nothing to raise any banners on, but 3 of their losses were by a total of 10pts and 2 of those were by 2 each.

It doesn't change the fact we were missing 8 total starters (if you include the guy who is now the primary #3 WR and kick/punt returner). We were missing 4 OL starters. Almost any other year in last 15-20 seasons this would been a complete debacle of a loss for us against ANYBODY, but not yesterday. Coaching matters, and it appears that at least offensively we have a very high end staff that can game plan and prepare guys, even guys we don't expect to play.

1) Another strong showing by Prescott. Had a few high balls early but settled in and threw 4 tds with zero picks, and maybe more importantly took no sacks (officially the Jets were credited for 1 for no gain) despite playing behind an OL of 4/5 backups. The Chicago game wasn't very good (by him or anyone) but his other 4 games he has been solid for sure.

2) Great effort by the OL, they pretty much neutralized the Jets front 7 and opened holes in the run game for a big day for Jevonte Williams. The pass protection was surprisingly solid as Prescott was rarely hit. It' only 5 games but I don't think it's far fetched to say this is the best coached and prepared OL unit we have seen since Bill Callahan was on the staff. We're lucky to have Adams and Riley. Nate Thomas had a great 1st career start and will be interesting to see if he stays on the field. Broaddus said after the game he thought the coaches would have to continue to play him. Bass and Hoffman might be the two best interior backup OL in the league. Solid start for Adenji as well. Coaching matters, and these guys are all well coached.

3) Jevonte Williams continues to impress, going off for 135 yds and 2 more tds. He breaks tackles at will. He's also a sensational blocker in blitz protection. Great addition to the team. Jaydon's Blue's debut was pretty ho hum although he did have a 30+ yrd kickoff return where he showed speed and explosive athletic ability, hurdling a guy. He also had a couple of textbook blitz pickups in pass proection. Will be interesting to see if he gets more reps in coming weeks.

4) Ryan Flournoy can play, and the Cowboys got incredibly lucky when nobody claimed him after he was surprisingly waived the week of the first game. Had a huge game yesterday with nice catches and plenty of YAC. Has a bright future here.

5) I still don't completely believe in the defense and the 4th quarter looked eerily similar to the previous 3 games when they couldnt stop anybody. But for 3 quarters they played pretty good and we had by far the best pass rush we have seen in any game this year. 5 sacks and nearly had 2 or 3 others. Also had two short yardage stops on 4th down and the strip fumble by Liufau after a big run was probably the play that turned the game around. The run defense was NOT good for most of the game though (gave up nearly 150 rush yds and almost 7 yds per carry, the only thing that kept it from being really horrendous was the scoreboard). That said, not as many blown coverages and again, the pass rush was pretty strong. I think they ran out of gas some in the 4th qtr (Jets ran a total of 73 plays) but it was progress.

6) Rookie Shemar James took over at MLB after Sanborn got a 1st half concussion, he had 15 total tackles and some nice hits. But he did get caught in the wrong run lanes a few times and cost us some chunk yards there. Learning experience for sure, but he has speed and range that Sanborn sorely lacks. Will be interesting to see if he keeps starting once Sanborn is cleared.

7) James Houston now has more sacks than Micah Parsons. When he is on the field vs the pass, he stands out. Rookie Ezeiruaku didnt get his first sack but he continues to get very close and he had 2 or 3 nice QB knockdowns yesterday, in addition to some good plays v the run. Clark and Odiggy are a great tandem inside. Sam Williams and Dante Fowler had sacks, and Fowler had by far his best overall game here. Could have easily had 2 or 3 sacks for this game was credited with a career high 6 QB knockdowns.

8) Too many penalties, although two or three of them were kinda bullshit. Diggs got hosed on his 15 yrs penalty for responding to a guy that head butted him (right in front of the ref). We got a couple of very iffy roughing the passer calls too. The upside is despite 4 backup OL playing, there were not a plethora of presnap calls or holdings as we almost assuredly would have seen the past 10 yrs.

Good solid win on the road, I certainly was not expecting it and had thought we'd probably lose. Instead, they impressed and easily won the game. Step in right direction but need to go into Carolina and play well there. Carolina is probably better than the Jets and Rico Dowdle is coming off a 200+ yd rush game. Need to tighten up the run defense for next week for sure. It was good the first 3 and 1/2 games, but the 2nd half of GB and yesterday was not good. Hopefully some injured guys come back.
 

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Yeah yeah, it's the now 0-5 Jets. Obviously nothing to raise any banners on, but 3 of their losses were by a total of 10pts and 2 of those were by 2 each.

It doesn't change the fact we were missing 8 total starters (if you include the guy who is now the primary #3 WR and kick/punt returner). We were missing 4 OL starters. Almost any other year in last 15-20 seasons this would been a complete debacle of a loss for us against ANYBODY, but not yesterday. Coaching matters, and it appears that at least offensively we have a very high end staff that can game plan and prepare guys, even guys we don't expect to play.

1) Another strong showing by Prescott. Had a few high balls early but settled in and threw 4 tds with zero picks, and maybe more importantly took no sacks (officially the Jets were credited for 1 for no gain) despite playing behind an OL of 4/5 backups. The Chicago game wasn't very good (by him or anyone) but his other 4 games he has been solid for sure.

2) Great effort by the OL, they pretty much neutralized the Jets front 7 and opened holes in the run game for a big day for Jevonte Williams. The pass protection was surprisingly solid as Prescott was rarely hit. It' only 5 games but I don't think it's far fetched to say this is the best coached and prepared OL unit we have seen since Bill Callahan was on the staff. We're lucky to have Adams and Riley. Nate Thomas had a great 1st career start and will be interesting to see if he stays on the field. Broaddus said after the game he thought the coaches would have to continue to play him. Bass and Hoffman might be the two best interior backup OL in the league. Solid start for Adenji as well. Coaching matters, and these guys are all well coached.

3) Jevonte Williams continues to impress, going off for 135 yds and 2 more tds. He breaks tackles at will. He's also a sensational blocker in blitz protection. Great addition to the team. Jaydon's Blue's debut was pretty ho hum although he did have a 30+ yrd kickoff return where he showed speed and explosive athletic ability, hurdling a guy. He also had a couple of textbook blitz pickups in pass proection. Will be interesting to see if he gets more reps in coming weeks.

4) Ryan Flournoy can play, and the Cowboys got incredibly lucky when nobody claimed him after he was surprisingly waived the week of the first game. Had a huge game yesterday with nice catches and plenty of YAC. Has a bright future here.

5) I still don't completely believe in the defense and the 4th quarter looked eerily similar to the previous 3 games when they couldnt stop anybody. But for 3 quarters they played pretty good and we had by far the best pass rush we have seen in any game this year. 5 sacks and nearly had 2 or 3 others. Also had two short yardage stops on 4th down and the strip fumble by Liufau after a big run was probably the play that turned the game around. The run defense was NOT good for most of the game though (gave up nearly 150 rush yds and almost 7 yds per carry, the only thing that kept it from being really horrendous was the scoreboard). That said, not as many blown coverages and again, the pass rush was pretty strong. I think they ran out of gas some in the 4th qtr (Jets ran a total of 73 plays) but it was progress.

6) Rookie Shemar James took over at MLB after Sanborn got a 1st half concussion, he had 15 total tackles and some nice hits. But he did get caught in the wrong run lanes a few times and cost us some chunk yards there. Learning experience for sure, but he has speed and range that Sanborn sorely lacks. Will be interesting to see if he keeps starting once Sanborn is cleared.

7) James Houston now has more sacks than Micah Parsons. When he is on the field vs the pass, he stands out. Rookie Ezeiruaku didnt get his first sack but he continues to get very close and he had 2 or 3 nice QB knockdowns yesterday, in addition to some good plays v the run. Clark and Odiggy are a great tandem inside. Sam Williams and Dante Fowler had sacks, and Fowler had by far his best overall game here. Could have easily had 2 or 3 sacks for this game was credited with a career high 6 QB knockdowns.

8) Too many penalties, although two or three of them were kinda bullshit. Diggs got hosed on his 15 yrs penalty for responding to a guy that head butted him (right in front of the ref). We got a couple of very iffy roughing the passer calls too. The upside is despite 4 backup OL playing, there were not a plethora of presnap calls or holdings as we almost assuredly would have seen the past 10 yrs.

Good solid win on the road, I certainly was not expecting it and had thought we'd probably lose. Instead, they impressed and easily won the game. Step in right direction but need to go into Carolina and play well there. Carolina is probably better than the Jets and Rico Dowdle is coming off a 200+ yd rush game. Need to tighten up the run defense for next week for sure. It was good the first 3 and 1/2 games, but the 2nd half of GB and yesterday was not good. Hopefully some injured guys come back.
Can't disagree with anything really but it seems we overcompensated on defense by finally having a pass rush at the expense of very poor run defense.
Unfortunately it's become a pattern again as Jacobs last game and Hall this game had both inside and outside success against run fits.
But your comment on James definitely being faster than Sanborn is clearly true. So hopefully that can lead to second level defensive improvement. And of course, Overshowns return.
And yep, I do agree that any NFL win is a plus these days but would really like to see a couple of wins over quality teams before I can fully embrace genuine optimism.
The defense still prevents me from doing so.
 

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Nice write up dbair. I think some of the questionable calls were make up calls in some ways. The Jets media folks kept replaying some non calls on their big screen(s) and they looked pretty obvious. A PI and hit to the QB's head come to mind. I'd have to think that affects the refs in some way. I mean, they just put the non calls on a loop. Never seen that in any other stadium.

Sanborn is just really bad. The guy plays like he's on skates. We need a major upgrade there for sure. The athleticism once James came in to replace Sanborn was obvious. And I even think they may have used him as a spy on Fields for a few plays.

As you know, I was at the game, mainly because the tickets weren't crazy expensive. But I did pay $100 for parking in that shit hole stadium in the middle of shithole NJ near the shithole NY border. The fans are ignorant, but not so much that they were talking trash....we actually sat next to some decent folks. But when you pay $100 to park and you see assholes take up multiple parking spaces with fold out chairs and a cornhole set up, it's pretty lame. I actually laughed because some dudes ran over one of the cornhole set ups to park and stepped out of his car and said "oops....sorry." But it was obvious he did it on purpose and I got a good chuckle out of it.

The stadium was at least 50% Dallas fans. I mean, there were loud chants of "lets go Dallas" from the stands (and it was loud). What's also weird is that I was on the Dallas sideline side of the field and we had the shade. While the Jets sideline and that half of the stadium got the sun. And that was for the whole game it was hot....over 80 degrees and humidity. You'd think the home team would take the shaded part of the field.

Good win but we need to play better D.
 
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What's also weird is that I was on the Dallas sideline side of the field and we had the shade. While the Jets sideline and that half of the stadium got the sun. And that was for the whole game it was hot....over 80 degrees and humidity. You'd think the home team would take the shaded part of the field.
That's architectural design being piss poor for football. Add to that, they wore all black uniforms too. I bet very few other than yourself have noticed that. It's the same for the Giants at home too.
 

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That's architectural design being piss poor for football. Add to that, they wore all black uniforms too. I bet very few other than yourself have noticed that. It's the same for the Giants at home too.
Then again... It may be intentional since they play far more cold weather games there than ones like Sunday. In the cold I think you'd rather have the sun all day.
 

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Then again... It may be intentional since they play far more cold weather games there than ones like Sunday. In the cold I think you'd rather have the sun all day.

I was thinking the same thing but I still thought it was odd.
 

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Thomas fucking sucked. The only dickhead with pink cleats, too. He should spend more time covering receivers and less time fraternizing with his low-rent Florida family.
 

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Jones was responding to a fan who could be seen giving him the middle finger. Way to go Jerry! 😀

Thomas fucking sucked. The only dickhead with pink cleats, too. He should spend more time covering receivers and less time fraternizing with his low-rent Florida family.

October is Breast Awareness Month. Juanyeh Thomas wore pink cleats in honor of his mother, Stephanie. Not because of cancer, but for raising 5 children by herself after the father burned down their house.

Juanyeh Thomas shocked his younger brother before the game by giving him customized pink cleats that donned the family's trademark triple cross symbol and the phrase "Stephanie's kids" emblazoned across them.

It's exceptionally apropos to the tattoo on head coach Brian Schottenheimer's left forearm reads: faith. family. football.
 

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Thomas fucking sucked. The only dickhead with pink cleats, too. He should spend more time covering receivers and less time fraternizing with his low-rent Florida family.
He had a fairly decent game, I thought he moved around better than what we see from Hooker on a week to week basis.

He ended up the 2nd leading tackler and got a PFF score right at average overall, but pretty good scores v run and for tackling.
 

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Strong effort Dbair. Let me say this though............Liafau strip fumble in the redzone was the play of the game. A huge 14 point swing there. More importantly the Jets more or less abandoned the run after this when they had been running at will. Then even worse they depended on Fields to pass them back in the game. I know..... a win is a win.
 
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