Cuts, signings, trades and more from around the league

[Doomsday]

They'll say he wonnum a game or two.

 

[Maveric]

 

[Doomsday]

Under, "and more.."

Is Pukey Manukey a big problem?

 

[dbair1967]

Under, "and more.."

Is Pukey Manukey a big problem?

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dont worry, I am sure Goodell is all over this

NOT

 

[dbair1967]

 

[Dodger12]

I don't want to laugh at a player's misfortune. But GB fans are going to rue the day. And I'm ruing the fact that Jerry is hell bent on wasting the draft picks we got for him.

 

[Dodger12]

And remember, the Pack have lost players on the D and if their 2027 season goes belly up, it won't really benefit us because we gave away our highest 1st round pick for a DT. Horrible trade that made absolutely no difference in the standings.

 

[dbair1967]

And remember, the Pack have lost players on the D and if their 2027 season goes belly up, it won't really benefit us because we gave away our highest 1st round pick for a DT. Horrible trade that made absolutely no difference in the standings.

Disagree with my Amigo on this. Quinnen Williams is a superb player and was an excellent addition.

We gave them a 2nd this yr and 1 in 2027, which on the trade value chart equates to two 2nd rd picks.

 

[dbair1967]

. And I'm ruing the fact that Jerry is hell bent on wasting the draft picks we got for him.

If we acquired Myles Garrett, would that be a waste of picks?

 

[icup]

If we acquired Myles Garrett, would that be a waste of picks?

it would be fun to watch

 

[dbair1967]

it would be fun to watch

They might be able to line you and I up in the secondary and win with a DL of Garrett, QW, EZ, Gary and Clark

 

[icup]

They might be able to line you and I up in the secondary and win with a DL of Garrett, QW, EZ, Gary and Clark

sign me up because i think the NFL needs a 275 lb box safety that only lines up near the LOS because he needs the offense to hear him talking shit all game long while everyone else does all the work

 

[dbair1967]

Dream squashed

 

[Dodger12]

Disagree with my Amigo on this. Quinnen Williams is a superb player and was an excellent addition.

We gave them a 2nd this yr and 1 in 2027, which on the trade value chart equates to two 2nd rd picks.

How do you get your fuzzy math? Two second round picks? You don't know that. Not by a long shot. If Micah is out and their D tanks, it could be a long season.

 

[dbair1967]

How do you get your fuzzy math? Two second round picks? You don't know that. Not by a long shot. If Micah is out and their D tanks, it could be a long season.

"trade value chart" so it's not fuzzy math. Picks in future drafts are valued as one round later in current year value and it's been that way since Jimmy created his draft pick value tables. We gave them a 2nd this yr and a 1st next yr, on the trade value chart this equates to two 2nd rd picks.

But you are right, we don't know how this season will play out. GB could see the bottom fall out of it and the Jets would get a much higher pick. The same could happen to us. Injuries are always the huge unknown and can undo even the best teams.

I still think it's likely that the pick the Jets get in 2027 will be somewhere in the 2nd half of round one.

 

[dbair1967]

Yep, Pats got it right with him.

 

[Dodger12]

We gave them a 2nd this yr and a 1st next yr, on the trade value chart this equates to two 2nd rd picks.

Not doubting Jimmy but that's real fuzzy math. An unknown first round pick next year equating to two 2nd round picks is nonsense.

 

[dbair1967]

Not doubting Jimmy but that's real fuzzy math. An unknown first round pick next year equating to two 2nd round picks is nonsense.

Here ya go Amigo:

The NFL Draft Trade Value Chart (sometimes called the Jimmy Johnson Chart or a modern update like the Rich Hill model) is a tool teams use to assign numerical "points" to every draft pick. This makes it easier to evaluate trades fairly by comparing total point values on both sides, rather than guessing.

The original Jimmy Johnson chart (created in the early 1990s with the Cowboys) starts the #1 overall pick at 3,000 points and drops sharply from there. The Rich Hill chart (a more analytics-driven update from 2018) uses a similar curve but scales the #1 pick at 1,000 points and better reflects modern trade data. Both charts are used as guidelines—actual trades can include premiums for elite prospects (like quarterbacks) or other factors.

How Future Draft Picks Fit InThe charts themselves only assign values to this year's draft picks (e.g., the exact slot like "2026 Pick 15"). Future picks (like a team's 2027 first-rounder) aren't listed with fixed numbers because their exact position is unknown—it depends on how the team performs next season. Instead, NFL front offices apply a widely accepted discount when valuing future picks in trades:

• Rule of thumb: A future draft pick is typically valued as one full round lower than its nominal round in the current year.
  • Example: A future 2nd-round pick ≈ value of a current 3rd-round pick (using the chart's points for that current pick).
  • A future 4th-round pick ≈ value of a current 5th-round pick.
  • A future 1st-round pick is often treated like a late current 1st or early 2nd, depending on the team's projected record.

This "one-round discount" is the industry standard. It shows up consistently in real trade data (especially since the 2011 CBA) and was explicitly noted by Rich Hill in his chart methodology. It's basically the "time value of money" applied to the draft: an immediate pick is more certain and useful than one you won't get for a year or more.Why the Discount Exists

• Uncertainty — You don't know exactly where the future pick will land (a good team might end up with a late 1st; a bad team gets an early one).
• Risk — Injuries, coaching changes, free agency, etc., could affect the player's value or the team's needs by the time the pick arrives.
• Data from trades — Analyses of dozens of pure pick-for-pick trades involving future selections confirm the one-round devaluation holds in the vast majority of cases (especially for 1st–3rd rounders). Late-round future picks (6th/7th) are often worth almost nothing on the chart and are rarely the centerpiece of big trades.

Quick Examples in Practice

• Trading your current 4th-rounder for someone else's future 3rd-rounder is generally seen as roughly even (per the chart + discount).
• If a team wants to move up now and includes a future 2nd, the other side usually treats that future 2nd as worth about a current 3rd's chart value.
• No one really fights over future 7th-rounders—they're discounted so heavily they're nearly worthless.

Teams tweak this slightly based on specifics (e.g., if they expect to be a top-10 pick next year, the future 1st might get a little less discount). But the one-round rule is the default starting point used across the league when referencing the trade value chart.In short, the chart gives you the raw points for known picks, and the one-round discount is how future picks are "plugged in" to keep trades balanced. It's not perfect science—GMs still negotiate based on talent, cap space, and team needs—but it's the framework almost every team uses on draft weekend.