2025 Week Fourteen: Dallas Cowboys vs. Detroit Lions

[dbair1967]

Definitely the kind of guy we need, but will prob be wasted if he spends the rest of his career playing for Eberdunce

 

[dbair1967]

this is just beyond horrible coaching

 

[dbair1967]

Have no idea what they thought they saw here. This was pathetic.

Honestly I didnt understand the offensive PI call on Pickens either (Flournoy had an easy first down). Looked like Pickens was just trying to run his route and two Detroit defenders ran into him.

 

[dbair1967]

I really dont understand the calls against Ferg and Pickens for OPI.

 

[Aggiepride]

They played good, but they took advantage of two fucking lousy beyond belief coaches in Eberflus and Sorenesen tonight.

They have to fire those two clods. Both are the worst in the league..

IMO, the real problem was our tackles. If they had played better we would have moved the ball more and that woudl ahve helped the defense. The bottom line is we are not exactly a top 5 defense no matter who is the DC.

Revel, for example, played bad, but he has very little experience. I was hoping Diggs would have done something tonight.

Steele, for example, gave up 7 QB pressures all by himself and Thomas did not have a good day either. I heard Pickens was having trouble getting open. We might credit Dak for taking Lamb out of the game for that one.

We are an offensive team. We rely on our offense. If it isn't clicking, it puts our defense in a bind regardless of who the DC is because we have real holes. Our safeties would suck no matter who the DC is.

In fairness, Steele would suck too no matter who the OC is. Thomas is young, so I'll give him a pass. But our offense wasn't what it needed to be tonight to put the D in a good spot.

Yes, with Clark, Williams and Wilson we have more talent than we did, but our holes, especially at safety, are still glaring and we have only one real CB.

 

[dbair1967]

 

[Aggiepride]

this is just beyond horrible coaching

Goff isn't a scrub. He'll kill you if you blitz too much. Aikman used to love it when teams blitzed. Dak is one of the very best against the blitz. Goff is pretty good, too, as far as I can tell. He has a +3.4 CPOE against the blitz. He ranks 8th against the blitz.

So what, you wanted them to blitz more?

 

[Aggiepride]

Have no idea what they thought they saw here. This was pathetic.

Honestly I didnt understand the offensive PI call on Pickens either (Flournoy had an easy first down). Looked like Pickens was just trying to run his route and two Detroit defenders ran into him.

Dak could have thrown a better ball, too. Almost picked.

 

[dbair1967]

Goff isn't a scrub. He'll kill you if you blitz too much. Aikman used to love it when teams blitzed. Dak is one of the very best against the blitz. Goff is pretty good, too, as far as I can tell. He has a +3.4 CPOE against the blitz. He ranks 8th against the blitz.

So what, you wanted them to blitz more?

The stats they showed from this game clearly said yes.

The problem is not only did they make no effort to pressure him, they compounded the problem by playing incredibly soft coverages the entire game. They were consistently 8-10 yds off the receivers, even in the redzone.

Watching Detroit tonight, it seemed like they had 13 or 14 guys on defense. Watching us it was the opposite, seemed like we had 7 or 8 v their 11 on offense. And it's been that way almost the entire year.

They definitely have terrible safeties and the LB's are not very good either. They need another legit pass rushing DE. But the defense should not be THIS bad. Detroit is not overly talented on defense themselves, and they nearly killed our QB and took George Pickens out of the game almost completely despite missing their best CB and their ballhawk FS.

 

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[dbair1967]

 

[Aggiepride]

The stats they showed from this game clearly said yes.

The problem is not only did they make no effort to pressure him, they compounded the problem by playing incredibly soft coverages the entire game. They were consistently 8-10 yds off the receivers, even in the redzone.

Watching Detroit tonight, it seemed like they had 13 or 14 guys on defense. Watching us it was the opposite, seemed like we had 7 or 8 v their 11 on offense. And it's been that way almost the entire year.

They definitely have terrible safeties and the LB's are not very good either. They need another legit pass rushing DE. But the defense should not be THIS bad. Detroit is not overly talented on defense themselves, and they nearly killed our QB and took George Pickens out of the game almost completely despite missing their best CB and their ballhawk FS.

Against the Vikings, for example, Goff had something like a 75% completion rate against the blitz. You blitz, he'll get comfortable and figure it out and you'll get burned.

Clowney not playing didn't help.

The difference between you and me is you think football is more like a chess game and the coordinators use their pieces in a strategic way and if they are just smart enough then they can win the game.

That goes against all my experience playing any sport. The coaches always had minimal effect on my play, regardless of the sport. When I was young, I was a damn good soccer player. I could have gone pro if I had the speed.

Coaches never made much of a damn difference. Now when I was really young, like in elementary school they thought me the game. gave me tips. But I am Italian and my dad really taught me the game and, more important, I taught myself the game.

If I had been Dez Bryant, just as an example, I would have paid for my very own WR coach in the offseason and learned to play in the slot. I would have done it every single year until I got it right. I wouldn't have waited around for Dooley or anyone else to kiss my ass and teach me one on one as if they have nobody else on the team to worry about.

I spent hours and hours and hours practicing in my back yard. I created my own drills. My poor neighbor had to hear the sound of the soccer ball hitting the fence as I practiced different shots.

As I got older I knew the game. Coaches, see the general stage, But I made the plays, not the coaches. All coaches might do is tell us, okay we're playing this alignment or that alignment. If you're good, you're good. period.

That's where we differ. You give far too much credit or blame, IMO, to the coach.

It's just a fundamental difference in perspective. I believe if you're a dog, you're a dog, no matter the scheme, no matter the coach. I do not believe Eberfluss does not allow the MLB to make a check (change the play based on the actual offensive formation).

 

[Scot]

They are saying Prescott is beat up pretty bad.

He got no help tonight, felt sorry for him TBH

Good!
Let’s see Milton throwing to flournoy, Tolbert, and Mandingo for the rest of the season.

I look forward to seeing 60 yard bombs being dropped

 

[dbair1967]

Good!
Let’s see Milton throwing to flournoy, Tolbert, and Mandingo for the rest of the season.

I look forward to seeing 60 yard bombs being dropped

Seeing him a lot (if not all) in those last two games v Washington and NYG makes a lot of sense.

 

[dbair1967]

Against the Vikings, for example, Goff had something like a 75% completion rate against the blitz. You blitz, he'll get comfortable and figure it out and you'll get burned.

Clowney not playing didn't help.

The difference between you and me is you think football is more like a chess game and the coordinators use their pieces in a strategic way and if they are just smart enough then they can win the game.

That goes against all my experience playing any sport. The coaches always had minimal effect on my play, regardless of the sport. When I was young, I was a damn good soccer player. I could have gone pro if I had the speed.

Coaches never made much of a damn difference. Now when I was really young, like in elementary school they thought me the game. gave me tips. But I am Italian and my dad really taught me the game and, more important, I taught myself the game.

If I had been Dez Bryant, just as an example, I would have paid for my very own WR coach in the offseason and learned to play in the slot. I would have done it every single year until I got it right. I wouldn't have waited around for Dooley or anyone else to kiss my ass and teach me one on one as if they have nobody else on the team to worry about.

I spent hours and hours and hours practicing in my back yard. I created my own drills. My poor neighbor had to hear the sound of the soccer ball hitting the fence as I practiced different shots.

As I got older I knew the game. Coaches, see the general stage, But I made the plays, not the coaches. All coaches might do is tell us, okay we're playing this alignment or that alignment. If you're good, you're good. period.

That's where we differ. You give far too much credit or blame, IMO, to the coach.

It's just a fundamental difference in perspective. I believe if you're a dog, you're a dog, no matter the scheme, no matter the coach. I do not believe Eberfluss does not allow the MLB to make a check (change the play based on the actual offensive formation).

If this were true then the college and pro games both would be littered with terrible coaches winning championships, and that almost never happens.

Coaching matters, the Cowboys the last 30 yrs are poster child for that. What you said is 100% what that fucking moron Jerry has believed since March of 1994 when he said "any of 500 coaches could do what Jimmy Johnson does". He's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that this IS NOT true.

 

[Mustang1]

Against the Vikings, for example, Goff had something like a 75% completion rate against the blitz. You blitz, he'll get comfortable and figure it out and you'll get burned.

Clowney not playing didn't help.

The difference between you and me is you think football is more like a chess game and the coordinators use their pieces in a strategic way and if they are just smart enough then they can win the game.

That goes against all my experience playing any sport. The coaches always had minimal effect on my play, regardless of the sport. When I was young, I was a damn good soccer player. I could have gone pro if I had the speed.

Coaches never made much of a damn difference. Now when I was really young, like in elementary school they thought me the game. gave me tips. But I am Italian and my dad really taught me the game and, more important, I taught myself the game.

If I had been Dez Bryant, just as an example, I would have paid for my very own WR coach in the offseason and learned to play in the slot. I would have done it every single year until I got it right. I wouldn't have waited around for Dooley or anyone else to kiss my ass and teach me one on one as if they have nobody else on the team to worry about.

I spent hours and hours and hours practicing in my back yard. I created my own drills. My poor neighbor had to hear the sound of the soccer ball hitting the fence as I practiced different shots.

As I got older I knew the game. Coaches, see the general stage, But I made the plays, not the coaches. All coaches might do is tell us, okay we're playing this alignment or that alignment. If you're good, you're good. period.

That's where we differ. You give far too much credit or blame, IMO, to the coach.

It's just a fundamental difference in perspective. I believe if you're a dog, you're a dog, no matter the scheme, no matter the coach. I do not believe Eberfluss does not allow the MLB to make a check (change the play based on the actual offensive formation).

Certainly players have to make plays. I agree with you from that standpoint. Unfortunately we don’t have any real dogs on our team. There is no one on this team that hates losing so much they are willing to jump on players asses for subpar performance. We don’t have any players with an attitude like a Michael Irvin. We just don’t. I do believe we have enough talent on defense to play much better than we have. Football is very different from soccer, baseball, or basketball. In soccer or basketball you have many one on ones where individuals are spread out across the field or court and pure talent can take over. In baseball great pitching and a few good hitters can take over a game. My point is depending on which sport maybe coaching and scheme play less of a role but is always important. Because of free agency and the salary cap the difference in talent is minimal. The result has been parity which is what the league higher ups want because every team supposedly has a chance every year. This keeps eyes on the games and the revenue coming. You have played soccer for many years and obviously know soccer very well and from your perspective really didn’t think coaching made much difference. I played high school football and college football and coached high school football for many years and have a different perspective on the role quality coaching plays. If you look around the NFL you see it everywhere. Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Kyle Shanahan, Dan Campbell, Mike Vrabel, and the list goes on. These are coaches that put their”stamp” on the team. In our case Eberflus came into Dallas trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Rather than build a scheme that fit the talents of his players, he did the opposite. This is coaching malpractice. In addition , Shoddy allowed it to happen so he bears responsibility as well. Ask yourself this…. If the Jerruh had hired Sean Payton to coach our team do you think we would be in the same position as we currently find ourself today? If your being honest you know Payton would be kicking ass and taking names. Again I respect your position that players have to play but it has become painfully obvious that Eberflus is incapable of coordinating an NFL defense. He is a liability. There are very obvious examples. Aside from scheme Eberflus is slow to make game time changes when things are not working. Sometimes he makes no changes at all. When something is not working it is imperative that change happens quickly. Whether that involves more man coverage or blitzing or alignment or a good ole fashion ass chewing something has to change. So yes, many of us who have played and coached football have a little different take than you on the importance of quality coaching in the game of football. Overall the Jerruh wants a yes man as head coach. He is threatened by the likes of a Payton type of coach because they will want control and that’s not something the Jerruh will tolerate. I would argue that our history proves that we have a culture of mediocrity from ownership to culture. I also believe the Jerruh talks a good game but at the end of the day it’s all about asses in the seats and eyeballs in the TV. Any doubt about my point of view and just look at thirty years of history. It’s very clear,,,, the problem with the Dallas Cowboys is ownership, culture ,lack of accountability ,and coaching. Yes players have to play, but Coaches have to Coach and we are getting neither!

 

[Scot]

In the last two matchups vs the Lions they have scored 91 points against us