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Right, you can't accept reality. He used a very comprehensive formula to come up with his list that Houston sits #32 on. 32 is last, by the way.

Cowboys fans really don't hate any other team, give or take. We don't raise our kids to hate Washington or Philadelphia like those fans do, for example.. Your "circle" is the Houston metro. Nobody hates the Texans. Few have any feeling at all about them, outside the metro.

The nonsensical part is that there could ever be a "rivalry" outside of the minds of Houston fans, between the Cowboys and fake Texans. You're right, the team in Houston isn't worth nearly as many bytes as we've given it here.

I said: "All their history goes to the current Baltimore team. Not "officially" I don't suppose." And that is correct. But the truth is, there is NO tie at all other than name, city and colors, to the history of the Browns. The current Browns started in 1995. Via league welfare, they...

Maybe you'll believe Sports Illustrated, I dunno. Ranking All 32 NFL Franchises In Order of Greatness

Based on reality. Mentioning Houston most anywhere other than the metro elicits yawns. For good reason.

Yeah you umm, cut out the part where I acknowledged that, trying to score some fake points I guess. You're about to tell us all now how revered the Cleveland Browns are as well?

Up in the Panhandle pal, where NO one gives a shit about the Houston team. Be careful to understand what I have been saying. I haven't said nobody cares about Houston. I have accurately stated FEW people outside the Houston metro area, care about them. That and maybe the idiot mecca of Austin.

The current Browns do not. They are a manufactured, welfare team basically. All their history goes to the current Baltimore team. Not "officially" I don't suppose. But that's not why I call the Houston team the Browns. I call them that because just like the Browns, few really give two shits...

Worked his ass off every day, to earn everything he was charmed with. I'm getting to work right now, making us a commemorative Roger Staubach banner, for the site.

And that's exactly 100 percent correct. As I said, FEW people outside the Houston metro area give a shit about the team down there. It has no history, no tradition, no past and no pedigree. We don't see it because it doesn't exist. It's the Houston Browns.

I just finished watching this on the NFL network. Such memories. Was really hard to choke back the tears at several points during the episode. What a hell of a man he was and is. And there it was again, the pity really, for those who never got to see him play. Who for whatever reason be it too...

There's just no heat in the "rivalry" and won't ever be. Few except in the major metro area around Houston give two shits about the team down there. It has no history, no past, has no pedigree. It might as well be the Houston Browns. Such a annual "game that counts" would only benefit Houston...

Pretty sure they do every preseason, which is all it's really worth.

Honestly, I believe Dallas beats Philadelphia - especially if the weather is bad - and will beat Washington as well. The Coats are vulnerable, so I can reasonably see them winning out. Gimme 12-4 and I'll start enjoying the ride a little.

Much "improved" only because they decided they better feature the running game - which is something those of us who believed they would win maybe five games had no idea they would do. We also had no idea that magically, during a contract season, Murray would beast it to beat all hell and avoid...

Another ready made, built in excuse is laid before us. When Murray goes down and we lose, the cries will be "He was our entire OFF-ENSE! What'd you expect!"

That's what it was? Looked like a mugging fended off late, to me.

No, it is a "ride." And we're supposed to enjoy it.

We should just 'enjoy the ride' and if we don't like what we see, should just stay quiet about it? I do not understand this mentality.