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It's understandable that YOU are unable to process it. He THRIVED MORE on special teams does not in any way mean he makes the all time SAFETIES list because of that.

I came from Hell. So there ya go.:woohoo

I see reading comprehension is one of your foibles. The site actually says: "It’s hard to leave off Bates on any list, particularly one featuring top safeties. That was Bates’ position his entire career although he thrived more as a special teams player." Please show us where he is listed as...

Sure you will. Anyone taking anything posted about their fictitious username on the web needs a checkup from the neck up. I think you're foolish and ignorant, but not nuts. :razz This is a locker room atmosphere, guys gonna razz and cut up.

That's very realistic. Because this team will never advance with Romo there, being coddled braced up and built around.

Says the actual idiot.

Nope. I cannot think of one Outstanding Contribution, as the charter calls for. But of course, Jerry would and will.

I'll argue anything I want to fucking argue, same as you.

He's one of the greatest, but do you know anything about him other than what you just read? You didn't know Bates was #10 all time until I educated you. :razz

Lovely. :rolleyes

Can you not read for context? Woody and Cliff should be in the RoH and really, this conversation proves how flawed it is, if nothing else.

Because in your view he made no outstanding contribution to the Dallas Cowboys?

And in the case of Woody and Cliff Harris, major oversight as well.

You could at least spell them all right. :razz Would you be like, all upset and stuff if Bates was named to the RoH?

I didn't and wouldn't use that terminology. But I wouldn't pitch a fit about someone using it either.

I didn't say it did. His entire FIFTEEN YEAR career in Dallas, does.

Jimmy Johnson owes his first playoff win to a timely, game sealing Bill Bates pick.

Well yeah, look at the frikkin names ON that list!

He had a knack for being in the right place at the right time, exactly when you needed him. If he sucked as a safety, Jimmy wouldn't be playing him as a safety! You know more than Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry?

If Bill Bates isn't THE embodiment of the Cowboys, who is? I put him right up there with Bob Lilly as far as off the field character goes. He is a honorable man and always was. You already said you wouldn't have a problem with Bates in the RoH and I never called him a "Legend" although he has...