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I thought he was just hurt and went out for a play, and of course they immediately went at Holt. And Jimmy put Smith right back in after that play. Thought I remembered that from the America's Game on that season.

Cool, thanks for that BB. Sbk's head had to explode when Parcells said how important corners are.

Obvious that he loves Brockers because he's the biggest, has the longest arms, etc. Perfect DE for his system. I bet he's the only guy who thinks Still will be better than Cox, too.

Good stuff, man. I also remember Jimmy saying that draft was the one time when he drafted for need. He said he knew it was risky to do that, but we simply had to have a corner. So he took Smith, who of course turned out to be a great pick. You might be right about us wanting coverage guys...

Look at Kirkpatrick at #12 overall...

lol Yeah, Ross was a real talent. I was at Parcells' first camp in 2003 and I remember Newman was already starting on the left side and Mario Edwards and Ross were rotating on the right. Ross would actually bait QBs... I remember one where he baited Quincy on a really deep throw to the...

Meh, I don't think Felix and Jenkins are necessarily misses, but Spears hasn't been better than Spencer. He's probably been worse. He can't even start anymore over a JAG like Coleman. Think we'd franchise him like we did Spencer? And Spencer said he let up in a few practices, not that he...

Ya, he wouldn't even be on the field for nickel downs. I'm sure it would be Ratliff, Hatcher, Ware, and Spencer. Even Lissemore would probably be ahead of this guy for pass rushing. Teams don't take those type 34 DEs early because they just don't offer you enough. That's why the JJ Watts and...

I was listening and I don't think Norm's reasoning made much sense. Basically, he loves that Brockers is really big and a strong run player. He admits that he doesn't have any pass rush at all. And how many 2-down 34 DEs are worth a top-15 pick? I can't even think of one.

Yeah, but who knows if Ryan really even wanted those guys with Crazy Al making the picks. Of course at Cleveland they did take Joe Haden, so maybe there's something to it.

One positive is that he seems like a good kid and a smart enough guy... I don't think anyone believes he's a total dog of a person, like say a Haynesworth. A lot of people hate the player and would hate the pick, but sometimes these guys work out. He has rare ability, that's for sure. I can't...

Mainly that he played against lousy competition and didn't put up any stats to show for it. But some claim that he played against a ton of spread offenses where a NT wouldn't put up numbers, and some like Broaddus claim he's not lazy so much as he just hasn't been taught very good technique.

I'm with SP... I think if there's any pick out there that no one is talking about, it's Kirkpatrick.

Yeah, how are Felix and Jenkins -- and Spears -- hits but Spencer is a miss? Speaking of Polian, though, saw him and Parcells on ESPN yesterday talking about this. Parcells' draft special is tonight, so that'll be good stuff. Seeing his draft board last year was pretty fascinating.

Heh, I could be totally wrong. Unlike some famous messageboaders. And like Wahoos said, he was just a sixth rounder, so hard to expect much anyway.

lol I doubt Harris ever becomes much. Maybe a Crayton type, but I doubt he's even that good.

Great post. (Agree with what he saw on Griffin and Luck, too.)

Good call on the OT. They may say they like Parnell, but do they like him in a "We can win playoff games with him starting" kind of way or in a "Decent developmental project considering we got him for free" kind of way?

He's better than Brodney Pool? :confused We better trade up for that.

Agree with that. I think Brent will be a pretty decent backup NT, and Lissemore has played some NT. We really don't have any depth at OLB.