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Oh, I know what you're talking about now. That was clearly just to take the high road on him winning the power struggle with the GM who was there. What was he supposed to say, "Ha, ha, the owner sided with me and I won the battle with that loser Roseman!" He never said the owner was making...

He said the owner was calling all the shots?

No, because this is a different coach and a different GM. I may be the only one, but I think Kelly has done enough good things in his career that I don't totally discount what he's doing. The Murray contract is actually the one thing that makes me think he's crazy, but even then I wouldn't be...

:lol Liked him in college but isn't he a Bradie James type big, immobile run specialist? Not what I think of when I think of this defense.

I still think it's the first one. Everyone in the local media has been saying what geniuses Steve and Will and Garrett are for a long time now, and I think they've all bought it. They think they'll just draft more players like Fred and Martin and even Bruce Carter, and boom, we're good. But...

Maybe getting away from Oakland will fix him. He was pretty amazing in college.... And at least should need able to take some of those to the house that Murray couldn't. Afraid those tiny chicken legs won't last just like they didn't in Oakland, though.

Plus everyone mentioned that one of Murray's best qualities was his work ethic, leadership, and professionalism. Pretty much the exact opposite of our dumbshit underwear thief.

Is Peterson even available? All I've heard is the Vikes want to keep him. He may say he doesn't want to play there, but for 12 mil or whatever I bet he'll change his mind.

Everyone's favorite coward Steve Dennis says the Raiders offered Murray substantially more than the Eagles but he didn't want to play for them.

What does this mean? Seems like way too much regardless. Also, not worried in the slightest about Murray being an Eagle. I may now be on board with the "Chip is crazy" crowd, which I wasn't before. But my real concern is what we do at RB. I thought all along we'd decide quickly and make...

Those comp picks are going to kick ass when our version of Blaine Gabbert is under center

So now they're saying the key is that Mathews never actually signed a contract with them. So it wouldn't be both guys, just Murray. So Garrett can still get his Norv tie.

So you think they shouldn't sign Murray?

Now I'm thinking no. He called Kelly personally? That almost tells me he doesn't care about coming back here. Problem now is who do we get if he doesn't come back? Even Spiller signed already. Pickings are getting slim.

That KO return was sweet, but so were those 60 and 70 yard runs against the Packers and then the Eagles playoff game. I liked Felix. Think he mainly went downhill because his knees kind of went out on him.

Financially it's the right thing, but as a player, when someone says how much they love you and and how valuable you are but then tells you, "Eh, go get your offers and maybe we'll match it -- we'll see" that would piss me off. Which I'm sure it does most players, and that's why when they get...

Maybe, but at this point who are we going to bring in if he goes somewhere else? Also, I know RBs have been undervalued lately, but I don't think it's totally out of the question that both good RBs go before #27. Gurley might not, but only because of the knee. And are we sure the knee will be...

I know he likes it here, but I'd have to tell them to go fuck themselves.

That's who I'd pick over either QB. I might take Mariotta if I were convinced he'd eventually be great, but I think it's going to take a lot of work for him.

Need Brown Sugar to confirm.