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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    the exact same as you saying it does. until it's proven race was a factor, i'm not going to make zimmerman racist. pizzadough boy was calling me racist all over the place cause i didn't agree calling someone racist w/o proper evidence was right. see how quickly that card can get played?
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    from wiki of the recording: About two minutes into the call, Zimmerman said, "he's running."[98] The dispatcher asked, "He's running? Which way is he running?"[99] The sound of a car door chime is heard, indicating Zimmerman opened his car door.[100] Zimmerman followed Martin, eventually losing...
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    distrust away. but you have no proof of all the racial things you're now using against him anymore than anyone else has proof that it wasn't racially motivated. all i'm sayin.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    ok, zimmerman lost trayvon and went back to his SUV. trayvon came back at zimmerman and started asking what was going on. how come that's ok but the idea of "just go home" is so bad? the idea of just saying "i'm here visiting my dad" is out of the question. it's all on zimmerman cause he dared...
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    lots of speculation you're doing that i don't see you letting "the other side" get away with.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    from what i've read on several counts, trayvon was looking in the windows of houses and acting suspicious. was trayvon casing the house? we'll never know for sure. has he ever stolen anything before? not allowed to ask.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    2 separate issues. if he's justified in being suspicious, then that's one thing. what happened between then and the killing - when did "race" come into play?
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    and that's what i like to try and collect - as much information to understand the history of the situation, not just the tragic 10 minutes that's been highly publicized. i heard him say "these assholes always get away with it" but that's not racist as far as i know.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    how does it prove it? i've never heard him use the N word or say "he's black so therefor a thief" any any recording to date. if i missed it, let me know.
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    SCOTUS Strikes Down Key Provision of Voting Rights Act

    On America's Newsroom this morning, we got Judge Andrew Napolitano's reaction to a major ruling by the Supreme Court on the Voting Rights Act. The justices ruled that a provision of the law that determines which states -- primarily in the South -- need federal oversight of their election laws is...
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    and from what i understand, he lost him and went back to the vehicle. it's also reported that when he was told he didn't need to do that, he said "ok" and stopped. from what i understand trayvon already caught onto someone watching him. and IF HE WAS looking into the window of an empty house...
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    yea, let's classify people first and then put everything they say into the extreme nature of that classification.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    this is what i don't get. no one as far as i know on this board knows zimmerman, yet all are quick to say this was racially motivated. when can we put aside race and look at actions and their own personal nature to determine what happened? not for a long long time to come it would seem.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    i generally don't read them either. in this case all i want are all the facts and history that could have led up to this and what *either* side could have been done differently. race-baiter is just being a jackass.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    didn't you just bitch me out cause i had to have it my way? i've said both sides could have done things differently to avoid a tragic outcome. fuck you and your crap.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    wow - another FUCK YOU. you don't know me well enough to make that statement and i strongly resent the implications of your dickheaded mindset.
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    so zimmerman knew trayvon was in fights and stole stuff before? all i'm out to do is understand why someone got so upset that they were asked why they were in a gated community. did he have to respond w/violence? how many times before in this country has a neighborhood watch person asked...
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    Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

    that's what can really be frustrating in here. is that what JB said? no. but those are the arguments that get ranted on about endlessly. it's sad trayvon is dead, to be sure. but THC was found in his system and zimmerman said he was acting like he was on drugs. the media portrayed trayvon as...
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    The Pussification continues...

    fuck you.
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