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You better be listening when your 60 mils per yr MVP caliber QB talks...you see what he is saying here?

The scoreboard might break in 11 days.

 

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Interesting that the Browns traded Kenny Pickett to the Raiders. What happens if Flacco, who is old, gets hurt, which is likely to happen? Now both backups are rookies with very limited experience in the preseason.

Are they expecting Watson back or something?
 

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So my question is, if Jimmy the GM knew that he had to "tear this thing down," exactly how is that different from tanking?

The idea that NFL teams don't tank is ludicrous. GMs do intentionally make trades KNOWING full well the team is not better, but worse. They just don't call it tanking because that is a "no no" officially, so they call it "building for the future. We would never tank".

Coaches always coach hard, but GMs have a completely different job. Jimmy the GM knew he was making the team worse, but Jimmy the coach coached hard.

If we trade Micah for draft picks, we aren't making the team better for this year and the entire planet knows it. We would be looking to next year or the year after that to make the leap.

Now if we trade Micah for, say, a kick-ass DT and maybe a really good RT, then that's different. And yeah, I know Jimmy also got players in the deal, but a lot of those players were just placeholder types like Paul Palmer.

Around the trade deadline, we'll see a couple of teams make trades that have nothing to do with winning more games this year. But Mickey Spagnola will write about how "teams never tank." Yeah, the players and coaches don't, but not the owners and GMs.

It's like the difference between how a CEO is supposed to think and how a department manager is supposed to think. One is long term and strategic, the other is short term and transactional.
 

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You better be listening when your 60 mils per yr MVP caliber QB talks...you see what he is saying here?

The scoreboard might break in 11 days.


The Eagles have a new OC. Have they been showing everything in preseason? I doubt it.

So it's all propaganda.

The Eagles offense knows what our defense is going to do because it is basically a Rod Marinelli defense with some tweaks, and there is plenty of tape on Eberflus.

The propaganda coming out of Dak's mouth right now reminds me of when they played the Niners and they all said, "This is a measuring stick. This will tell us how good we are". And the Niners proceeded to hand the Cowboys their asses on a platter.

I'll believe it when I see it.
 

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WE INTERRUPT THIS FORUM FOR A BRIEF MESSAGE FROM OUR SPONSOR....



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It's often said that Jerry will do anything to win a Superbowl.

That is not true.

Jerry will not step aside and let someone else do the job even if he could somehow be guaranteed to win a SB. Like if someone could show him the future, and the future said there are 5 SBs in a row in your future if you make Let's say Troy, Jimmy, etc the GM, Jerry would still say no.

If nothing else, give us another person at GM to be mad about.
 

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It's often said that Jerry will do anything to win a Superbowl.

That is not true.

Jerry will not step aside and let someone else do the job even if he could somehow be guaranteed to win a SB. Like if someone could show him the future, and the future said there are 5 SBs in a row in your future if you make Let's say Troy, Jimmy, etc the GM, Jerry would still say no.

If nothing else, give us another person at GM to be mad about.
You are spot on in your analysis!
 

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If we trade Micah for draft picks, we aren't making the team better for this year and the entire planet knows it. We would be looking to next year or the year after that to make the leap
With the cancer he's made himself and the fact he just goes away in postseason, we're not hurting the team either. He's simply just not all that special.
 

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With the cancer he's made himself and the fact he just goes away in postseason, we're not hurting the team either. He's simply just not all that special.
Micah is an excellent player but he just isn’t a real dawg! What do I mean by that? He does not have that Ray Lewis Michael Irvin Lawrence Taylor Aaron Donald fight that all generational talents exude. He pouts when things are not going his way. He is not a leader. Does he help our defense? Absolutely! Is he worth 40+ million a year? I don’t think so. Look the reality is that no matter who you have on this team we will not sniff a SB because of the infected culture Jerruh has created. It’s tough enough reaching a Super Bowl under optimal conditions but when you add the JJ factor it becomes insurmountable. The naysayers will argue he is a generational talent and I won’t argue that point. What I will say is he is much like Dak in that when you need him the most he gives you the least. He has not delivered when it really mattered. We are already in salary cap hell because of JJs ineptitude. Adding another forty million per year to the salary cap for one player is just too much. Things have gotten personal. Trade the man and let him have a chance at a Super Bowl with another team. Will McClain has done a pretty good job of drafting. He misses from time to time but overall does a good job. As a lifetime fan I have come to the unpleasant realization that as long as JJ is in charge we are screwed.
 
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So my question is, if Jimmy the GM knew that he had to "tear this thing down," exactly how is that different from tanking?
The Herschel trade was far more nuanced. Firstly, Jimmy had already forfeited the Cowboys 1990 1st round draft pick (which, as it turned out, would have been the 1st overall pick) in acquiring Steve Walsh. So there really wasn't any great value in "tanking" as such.

Secondly, the Cowboys were already losing badly even with Herschel on the team (they were 0-5 at the time of the trade, with 4 of those 5 losses being by 18 points or more). What Jimmy had come to realize was that Herschel really wasn't as good as advertised, and that he needed to cash him in while his stock was still high elsewhere around the league.

The trade was about acquiring as much draft capital as possible for the future rebuild. Making the team worse wasn't really a consideration, since it would have been almost impossible for them to be any worse.
 

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The Herschel trade was far more nuanced. Firstly, Jimmy had already forfeited the Cowboys 1990 1st round draft pick (which, as it turned out, would have been the 1st overall pick) in acquiring Steve Walsh. So there really wasn't any great value in "tanking" as such.

Secondly, the Cowboys were already losing badly even with Herschel on the team (they were 0-5 at the time of the trade, with 4 of those 5 losses being by 18 points or more). What Jimmy had come to realize was that Herschel really wasn't as good as advertised, and that he needed to cash him in while his stock was still high elsewhere around the league.

The trade was about acquiring as much draft capital as possible for the future rebuild. Making the team worse wasn't really a consideration, since it would have been almost impossible for them to be any worse.
Yeah they were already bad. We had the worst record in the league in 1988 (that's how we got Troy) and were no better at the beginning of 1989. Jimmy knew going in it was a rebuilding project and at the time rebuilding through the draft was really all there was.

Nobody "tanked" and in the modern era of the NFL I doubt anyone can show me any proof of ANY team "tanking". New England last yr lost draft position by winning a game in the final week of the season with a backup QB. In 1988 all Green Bay had to do was lose on the road vs a heavily favored Cardinals team to clinch the #1 pick, instead they won and we got the #1 pick, which ended up being Troy.

The NBA is a fucking joke, so maybe "tanking" does happen for their shitpile product. But it doesn't exist in the NFL and never has.
 

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The Herschel trade was far more nuanced. Firstly, Jimmy had already forfeited the Cowboys 1990 1st round draft pick (which, as it turned out, would have been the 1st overall pick) in acquiring Steve Walsh. So there really wasn't any great value in "tanking" as such.

Secondly, the Cowboys were already losing badly even with Herschel on the team (they were 0-5 at the time of the trade, with 4 of those 5 losses being by 18 points or more). What Jimmy had come to realize was that Herschel really wasn't as good as advertised, and that he needed to cash him in while his stock was still high elsewhere around the league.

The trade was about acquiring as much draft capital as possible for the future rebuild. Making the team worse wasn't really a consideration, since it would have been almost impossible for them to be any worse.
Such bullshit! Bottom line. Anytime any GM in any sport intentionally makes the team worse, the GM is TANKING!!!!!! Because there is gambling and sportsmanship involved nobody says it that way, but that is EXACTLY what is happening.

"the Cowboys were already losing badly even with Herschel " well of course, you don't tank if your team is good and you think you can make the playoffs.

This is such common sense. I do not understand why so many fans are brainwashed.
 

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With the cancer he's made himself and the fact he just goes away in postseason, we're not hurting the team either. He's simply just not all that special.
I'm not sure how many postseasons we have made to be confident in that statement. But he does wear down. And that is more the fault of the coaches and how they use him.

I don't generally believe in changing your entire system for just one player, but if that one player is truly a generational player, then I do think changing the system makes sense. To me, Parsons should be used exactly the way Bill Parcells used Lawrence Taylor. Yes, Lawrence Taylor did sometimes line up at defensive end, but he didn't make a living lining up at defensive end.

If Parsons is truly a generational player, then don't wear him down by having him continuously line up across from much bigger offensive tackles, much more powerful guards, and so forth. Use him judiciously on the line of scrimmage. Use them in spots.

Based on my memory of watching the Giants, I would say that Lawrence Taylor played defensive end roughly 20 to 30% of the time, not all the time, and LT had no problem impacting the game.
 

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As predicted, Deuce is cut. But, maybe he'll come back. Then again, if we are not going to play him at all, then why bother to even take up a spot on the practice squad? Give that spot to someone who can develop into a possible player who sees the field.

By the way, who was the sixth-round cornerback we drafted who apparently had an incorrect 40 time? I think he is already off the team as well.
 
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